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The Deception Of The Thrush (A Beginners' Guide To ProjeKcts) CD

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"King Crimson is, as always, more a way of doing things. When there is nothing to be done, nothing is done: Crimson disappears. When there is music to be played, Crimson reappears. If all of life were this simple". Robert Fripp

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  • Audio CD (23 Feb 2009)
  • Number of Discs: 1
  • Format: CD
  • Label: Discipline Global Mobile
  • ASIN: B00002DDRJ
  • Average Customer Review: 3.3 out of 5 stars  See all reviews (3 customer reviews)
  • Amazon Bestsellers Rank: 150,846 in Music (See Top 100 in Music)

1. Masque
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3. Masque
4. Masque
5. Masque
6. Masque
7. Masque
8. 4 I 1
9. 2 II 3
10. 4 II 4
11. Sus-Tayn-Z
12. The Deception of Tte Thrush
13. Ghost
14. Ghost
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16. Ghost
17. Ghost

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9 of 9 people found the following review helpful By A Customer on 16 Jan 2004
Format: Audio CD
King Crimson fans should know what they're expecting, but here's a warning to the uninitiated: This album consists entirely of free-form improvisations, although the extensive use of drum loops means that it should appeal to fans of ambient techno as much as fans of avant garde jazz or art rock.
This is the single disk compilation showcasing each of the different 'projeKcts' from the 4-disk boxed set and serves both as a good introduction and as a good album in its own right.
ProjeKct 1 should please those Crimson fans who were disappointed with 'Thrakattak' and is Bill Bruford's last Crimson outing. There's loads of great ideas in here, with Bruford and Levin obviously gearing up for their BLUE project.
The ProjeKct 2 stuff is much better than on their 'Space Groove' studio album, although the electronic drums still sound a bit flat and 'plastic'. At least they got some better ideas here.
Pat Mastelotto sorts out the electro-drum stuff with ProjeKcts 3 & 4, which is where things really come together, but Tony Levin is sadly left without much to do on ProjeKct 4.
All great stuff, but not really the best starting point for newcomers to the band, unless you're an (aggressive!)ambient techno fan. I eventually bought the 4 disk set mainly for ProjeKct 1, but them I'm a die-hard Brufordite!
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2 of 2 people found the following review helpful By MrMcbutterpants on 14 Aug 2012
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Some terrific pieces on this CD. I missed Bruford at first (he doesn't contribute much here) but soon got over it. This doesn't feel like a rock CD - it's somewhere between jazz and electronic music. My wife calls this 'washing machine music' - as that's what it sounds like. Sadly, our washing machine cannot match The Deception as it rotates in 4/4 and cannot recite TS Eliot's the Wasteland.
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2 of 5 people found the following review helpful By S. Loft on 30 Mar 2011
Format: Audio CD
I'm a big Crimson fan, go back with them a long way, and have reviewed several of their albums on Amazon, four or five stars without exception. This is the exception. There are no lyrics, no obvious tunes, and lots of noodling and doodling. I owned this for several years and got rid of it last summer, suspect that I would still recognise it if you aurally assaulted me with it, but I think Crimson's improvisations work best when they are scattered between their more structured/lyrical songs, and I suspect that their best 'improvs' are pretty thoroughly rehearsed.
I would recommend either of the Great Deceiver double CDs ahead of this, if you want Crimson components live. Avoid The Construction of Light too.
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18 of 18 people found the following review helpful
A Terrific Sampler (4.5 stars really) 24 Dec 2002
By Snow Leopard - Published on Amazon.com
Format: Audio CD
The double trio of "Thrak" (Fripp, Gunn, Levin, Bruford, Belew and Mastoletto) eventually splintered, and toured variously in (four) smaller groups (with Fripp and Gunn being the only two constants throughout). Concert recordings were made for each group on tour, were edited, reduced and released as the ProjeKcts boxed set. "Deception of the Thrush" is a reduction of that boxed set that nevertheless manages a good job of sharpening your curiosity to hear more.

Why buy just a sampler, when a boxed set of four discs is available (money aside)? There are three reasons.

First, the boxed set is indeed something to have, but what you gain in quantity inevitably means an overall reduction in quality. In other words, the "punch" packed by the sampler is more consistent than with the music of the boxed set. Obviously, highlights from a concert will be more impressive in some ways than the concert itself, but that doesn't mean you'd never want to hear the whole concert too.

Second, this is a decidedly wicked combination of tunes. All of the pieces are "improvisations" (I think "extrapolations" might be a better word). They all consist of consummate musicians, with an extraordinary range of electronic equipment (some of it preprogrammed) working through the musical space created by a more or less unstructured series of musical ideas. You can listen to the whole disc just thinking to yourself about the technical aspects of the equipment if you like, but the sounds, and noises, and shifts, and textures and sheer gargantuan musicianship you hear is thoroughly compelling.

Third, the pieces actually form a coherent whole, which is rather impressive given that they're culled together from four bands in all kinds of different venues. This is no slapdash collection of live pieces, but actually feels like an "album".

As for the songs themselves, the disc opens with seven tracks of "Masque" from ProjeKct 3 (approximately 26 minutes), three tracks from ProjeKct 1, one from ProjeKct 2, an edited marriage of two versions of "Deception of the Thrush" from ProjeKcts 3 and 4, and finally all of "Ghost" in five tracks (which clocks in a nearly 40 minutes). One can see from this that ProjeKcts 3 and 4 are heavily represented, while 1 and 2 are not. This is fine with me, since 1, 3 and 4 are the more esoterically experimental of the ProjeKcts. Number 2 "wastes" Adrian Belew's guitar talents on playing the V-drums (which are somehow capable of playing bass lines it seems). Bruford and Levin are both on 1 (a must-hear disc in the boxed set).

It is difficult to describe the music, especially when it is so varied. ProjeKcts 3 and 4 both feature Pat Mastoletto on drums, plus Fripp and Gunn. (Tony Levin is on 4.) As such, the drumming on the bulk of this disk is a combination of preprogrammed loops and live drumming-very little Bruford, if that's what you're hoping. All of the sonic experimentation that has become a staple of Fripp's guitar now has a home in Mastoletto's drums as well. As a result, they bubble, burp, thump, and pitter pat right along. In one respect, I almost think this is Robert Fripp's way of weaning his fans of 2 decades of Bruford, and selling them on the approach and style Mastoletto is now bringing to Crimson. Meanwhile, Gunn is usually holding down the bass with the distinctive fretless sound of his touch and talking guitars, and proving again and again that Tony Levin's absence needn't be a reason to wail and bemoan. (On 4, with Levin on bass, Gunn gets to set up all kinds of counter rhythms, grinding guitar lines and sonic sledgehammers in tandem with Fripp.) Meanwhile, Fripp, up to his eyebrows in electronics, is pulling off guitar wizardry as usual, soloing with harmonizers while backing himself on Frippertronics.

The overall effect of this much musicianship and electronics crammed into a small space is, to my mind, some of the most consistently listenable avant-garde music I own. The boxed set is without a doubt my favorite King Crimson "album"--I listen to it more than anything else by them--but I'm always having to change disks to hear it all. With the sampler disk, I get a cross-section without the hassle of having to choose. It doesn't have all of the pieces I'd select for my own personal best version, of course, but what it does select (knowing the whole of what is available in the full set) is very good.

Just remember again. This bears no resemblance to "In the Court of the Crimson King"; neither is it like "Red" (except in heaviness maybe), nor "Thrak", nor "Discipline". If you've heard Rieflin, Fripp and Gunn's "Repercussions of Angelic Behavior", then you have an idea of what this sounds like. It tends to be very big and ominous, supremely musical in a very noisy way, atmospheric more than song-like (bearing in mind that smog can be an atmosphere), churning, ethereal, and super-engaging.
10 of 11 people found the following review helpful
King Crimson, still, the best vintage! 28 April 2000
By Cengiz ONEN - Published on Amazon.com
Format: Audio CD
Being the sampled version of the 4CD set, this CD's main emphasis is to give an idea what is waiting for the listener in the 4CD box. It fulfills its mission perfectly: elaborated and meticulously engineered pieces that takes you from where you are and brings to wonderful and everchanging Crimsonian world where everything looks so within reach yet far apart. Brilliant!
7 of 9 people found the following review helpful
King Crimson - 'A Beginners Guide To ProjeKcts' (Discipline) 27 Feb 2005
By Mike Reed - Published on Amazon.com
Format: Audio CD
Never have been all that much of a King Crimson fan, but I admit to liking several of their landmark CD reissues / releases. 'A Beginners Guide' is sort of tough to follow UNLESS you're a big-time Crimson fan, but I'll do my best. The way the CD booklet explains it, all these cuts were performed by certain King Crimson subgroups (isn't that the same as band spin-offs?). I thought that "Ghost, Part 1", all three tracks were decent, thus allowing the players to be more interactive with one another. Also enjoyed the seven part "Masque" which were good that tend to showcase each musician's superb playing abilities. Just good progressive album rock. Line-up: Robert Fripp - guitar & keyboards, Adrian Belew - guitar & vocals, Trey Gunn - guitar, Tony Levin - bass and Pat Mastelotto - drums. Nice cover.
2 of 2 people found the following review helpful
Challenging...and interesting 24 Aug 2006
By NEOPROG RAN - Published on Amazon.com
Format: Audio CD
This CD captures the improvising atmospheric spirit of KC. This music has a very modern sound to it. I especially like The Deception of Thrush. Although some parts go too far, this is progressive and worth listening to.
1 of 1 people found the following review helpful
Brilliant intro to KC ProjeKcts 7 Dec 2007
By Joseph C. Helton - Published on Amazon.com
Format: Audio CD Verified Purchase
This cd is a compilation of the highlights from a larger ProjeKcts release. The music is all instrumental, much of it performed live in front of an audience. The music is rather challenging to listen to, as typically what's happening is improvisation over a musical framework. Each track is a foray into new musical territory, which some listeners may appreciate more than others. Definitely not your typical rock album, and really not too accessible to new KC listeners. I'd say this album takes some time and maybe even maturity to appreciate.

That said, I feel the music here is very progressive, abstract, improvisational, and utterly absorbing. Instead of being a time sink, the fractalization of King Crimson has produced music of a caliber that very few bands can rival. 5 stars!
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