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Colloquial Malay (PB + CD) [Misc. Supplies]

Sutanto Atmosumarto , Zaharah Othman
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7 Oct 2004 0415306299 978-0415306294 Har/Com/Cd
"Colloquial Malay" is easy to use and completely essential. Specially written by experienced teachers for self-study or class use, the course offers you a step-by-step approach to written and spoken Malay. No prior knowledge of the language is required. What makes "Colloquial Malay", your best choice in personal language learning? It is interactive, it: contains lots of dialogues and exercises for regular practice; contains clear-concise grammar notes; features practical - useful vocabulary and pronunciation guide; and is complete - including answer key and special reference section. By the end of this rewarding course, you will be able to communicate confidently and effectively in a broad range of situations.

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  • Misc. Supplies: 304 pages
  • Publisher: Routledge; Har/Com/Cd edition (7 Oct 2004)
  • Language: English
  • ISBN-10: 0415306299
  • ISBN-13: 978-0415306294
  • Product Dimensions: 17.5 x 24.4 cm
  • Average Customer Review: 3.0 out of 5 stars  See all reviews (2 customer reviews)
  • Amazon Bestsellers Rank: 4,633,476 in Books (See Top 100 in Books)
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4 of 4 people found the following review helpful
3.0 out of 5 stars Good but a bit of a chore. 8 Jun 2004
Format:Audio Cassette
On the whole I do like this book. It is very comprehensive with a wide variety of vocab with questions and answers at the end of the chapters to test your knowledge. If you have the time to go through the book cover to cover then you will come out with a good grasp of Malay. What I dislike about the book is the lack basic words and phrases for a tourist that first sets foot in Malaysia. You have to hunt through the book for basic phrases such as asking for directions and asking the price of things. Also the vocab learning is not structured enough so you end up learning lots of random words rather then particular topics like food, colours, family members etc.. You don't feel satisfied at having conquered a certain topic. Another irritating thing is the short amount of time you are given to repeat after the speaker. You only get half way through the sentence before the next one starts!
I do like this book and don't regret buying it but it has some fatal flaws that makes learning more difficut then it needs to be. This is not the book for you if you are just lookng for a basic grasp of the language to get by on holiday; serious learners only!
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16 of 18 people found the following review helpful
3.0 out of 5 stars Nice book - pity about the ambivalences 26 Jun 2000
By A Customer
In a book titled COLLOQUIAL Malay, or COLLOQUIAL anything, we would expect that we were dealing primarily with the SPOKEN language. This book seems confused about this point. It constantly uses the me- form of the verbs while pointing out (on p.104): "The full normally used in written Malay. In spoken Malay, however, it is often ignored or dropped. So, instead of saying mengambil ('take'), Malay speakers are likely to say ambil." We don't want to sound like pedants when we speak, do we? There are also a number of other carelessnesses: e.g. on p. 212 it says "Bila, ketika, waktu, semasa, kalau and jika all translate into one word in English, namely 'when'. Later it says kalau and jika are "very close to 'if' in English and, indeed, all the examples using kalau and jika are translated as 'if' (as I believe they should be) and never as 'when'. On p.238 it says the plural of nouns is formed by reduplication, so kedai means a shop and kedai-kedai means shops. As far as my knowledge goes, kedai means a shop or shops (where there's no stress on the plurality) and kedai-kedai means 'different kinds of shops. Notice on p.146 'PINTU bilik sudah dikunci?' [not pintu-pintu] translated as 'Have you locked the bedroom DOORS?' In general it's a pleasant book to use but it needs some proofreading to sort out these (and many other) ambivalences.
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32 of 34 people found the following review helpful
4.0 out of 5 stars Large Vocabulary; Clearly Spoken Examples on the Cassettes 8 May 1998
By A Customer - Published on
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This book and the 2 cassettes with it provide a good, solid beginner's course for native English speakers to learn Bahasa Malaysia. It is set up in a textbook-like way, and the cassettes are somewhat like a language lab, in the sense that they re-inforce the written work; the cassettes are not meant to teach on their own. I would reccomend this course for someone who is willing to sit down with a notebook and do some written exercises every day. If, on the other hand, the goal is to learn by listening and repeating (in the car, for instance) try "Survival Malay"; less comprehensive, but teaches chunks of useful language in the "listen and repeat twice" format.
5 of 6 people found the following review helpful
3.0 out of 5 stars Good but not perfect 12 July 2007
By Alain MARIE - Published on
Format:Audio Cassette
Considering that the Malay language is one of the simplest language in the world for English speakers, you would expect this method to be close to perfect. It is far from it. There are a number of mistakes. Some new words are not explained. Some exercises are simply impossible given the vocabulary of the preceeding lessons. It looks like it has been made of bits and pieces put together but not necessarily connecting with each other. That being said, it will still achieve its goal of teaching you a fairly decent level of Malay quickly.
4 of 5 people found the following review helpful
2.0 out of 5 stars Not the best course for serious study of Malay 2 Oct 2010
By S. Azzouz - Published on
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I am re-writing my review because I talked with someone about the book and we went over it section by section. I realize the book is better than I thought it was in the beginning. Having said that, the book does still have some issues. I still think the book is lacking in direction, content and good ways in how to describe yourself, talk with others, etc. and some of the dialog is outdated but considering the original publish date, I guess one can expect that. I really wish that they had spent a bit more time on making this book better. Its almost like this is a bigger phrase book, not a course and that is unfortunate. Some of the book is good.

I have to say that it does give some good things to know like colors, numbers, days of the week, etc. but even then, they could have given a bit more in that area. I do think that the dialogs are horrible and really need to be updated in the worse way and they need to be a bit more relevant to everyday life that people live instead of some political issues, secretarial office work, and so on. A few dialogs do talk of things that happen but not really all the time. At first, I thought the dialogs were a bit strange but after reading them through, they made a bit more sense but still the problem of it being relevant to regular life.

While I don't really don't think that grammar is the best way to learn a language, I would have appreciated a bit of explanation of the grammar they have in the book and a bit more, I guess you could say, practical grammar? What they do have in the book, is not really explained very well, especially for the "grammatically challenged", like me! lol! There should have been more vocabulary and the layout of all of the book is confusing. The glossary-dictionary is about 12 pages long--just barely; so it is not even a good book to look up Malay words that are even in the book.

There are a few good points of the course. If you don't know how to pronounce Malay and have never seen it written, or heard it before then this is a good course for that. The cassettes and CD's I got with the course (they have the same material on both formats, I don't know why), are great for helping you to learn the vocabulary and sounds; although, be prepared, they talk really fast. The book is great in that it does force you early on, to learn to read and do exercises in the language. They provide a lot of exercises for practice and I like that--it makes you think about the language, not just read and listen. It is not a bad course if you are not using it to learn the language, for the sake of learning Malay. It is good for the very beginner, like me, who needs something as a jumping off point; to hear it, see it in print and understand a few basic phrases and get a feel.

If you want to learn Malay seriously, then I don't recommend this course for that. I can barely recommend it for someone who just plans on using it as a tourist going to visit because there really isn't much for that in the book, either. I would recommend to keep looking on Amazon for a few other courses and Teach Yourself does have one but I don't know how good it is (my next purchase!)and I haven't read reviews yet. I do pray that when they update this book, that they will add more vocabulary, better, up to date EVERYDAY dialogs, a better dictionary, grammar explanations and better layout. For the price, I'd buy it used and as low as you can get it--over $20 would be far too much to pay. I was blessed and got mine for, believe it or not, $2.98 with audio in cassettes and CD's!
2.0 out of 5 stars Could really use some proof-reading 20 April 2007
By originalcinner - Published on
The exercises expect the student to know grammar and vocabulary that hasn't yet been covered, which makes it frustrating and unnecessarily difficult. Sometimes a word is given in the chapter vocab notes, and then a different word (synonym) is used in the exercises. That should have been fixed by a proof-reader prior to publication. The authors have tried hard - successfully so - to make the exercises interesting, relevant and modern but a beginner who has no experience of learning a foreign language will struggle with this book.

I only bought the book, not the companion CDs/cassettes.
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