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In six tumultuous years, Orange Juice, led by Edwyn Collins, blazed a trail of self-reliance with the legendary Postcard label, ran in conjunction with then-manager Alan Horne, and greatly expanded the palette of independent music at the start of the ‘80s with their brand of literate pop songwriting that both pre-saged the coming of The Smiths and kickstarted a renaissance in Scottish pop music… Read more in Amazon's Orange Juice Store

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  • Audio CD (8 Nov 2010)
  • Number of Discs: 7
  • Format: Box set
  • Label: Domino Records
  • ASIN: B0040ZTO8A
  • Other Editions: Audio CD  |  MP3 Download
  • Average Customer Review: 4.3 out of 5 stars  See all reviews (6 customer reviews)
  • Amazon Bestsellers Rank: 29,307 in Music (See Top 100 in Music)

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BBC Review

It is impossible to overstate the importance of Orange Juice, and even though part of their project was to puncture the pomp and seriousness of the rock canon, they must now be regarded as an enormously significant band which proved pivotal not once but twice. First, in providing a bridge between dour post-punk and the shiny early-80s "new pop" of ABC, Heaven 17 et al; and then in pointing a way out of that funky cul de sac by re-embracing guitar music, just as The Smiths were asserting their faith in classic rock principles at the height of new romantic synthmania. 

In many ways, Orange Juice – with that deceptively innocuous name, so evocative of their aesthetic – were superior to The Smiths, more multifaceted and complex (they hailed their lack of worldliness but were nothing if not knowing). And their frontman Edwyn Collins was like Morrissey only with a more advanced sense of irony and a better, more varied record collection. Morrissey’s raffish wit and arch olde-worlde language were already in place on those early Orange Juice singles for Postcard – where Moz sang Heaven Knows I’m Miserable Now, Edwyn exclaimed, "Ye gods, I’m simply thrilled, honey" – while Johnny Marr’s Byrds fetish was pre-empted by the charged jangle of Blue Boy et al.

On this massive anthology – comprising 130 tracks, including dozens of excellent unreleased tracks and previously unavailable material, plus a DVD of videos and TV/live performances – you get a sense of the breadth of Orange Juice’s remit during their six-year career. Disc one begins with the (ironically) naive exuberance of Falling and Laughing from early 1980, when Collins and company were making radical claims to being equal parts Velvet Underground and Chic, but it’s not till Poor Old Soul that the guitars become funkily rhythmic. You have to wait until the end of disc two and the bonus cuts tacked on after the You Can’t Hide Your Love Forever album to see their full transformation from indie guitar band to the electro-pop hitmakers of Rip It Up, their top 10 single from 1983.

Together, these six CDs tell a story, and by the end of each you get a glimpse of the next chapter (rockabilly energy on disc four’s Texas Fever; enervated rock-soul by disc five’s final self-titled affair). Meanwhile, the DVD shows how great OJ looked, whether in their early days, when Edwyn sported his Roger McGuinn fringe, or during their brief chart phase, when he again beat Morrissey, this time to the quiff. A timely reminder of all that rings true.

--Paul Lester

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51 of 56 people found the following review helpful
By nigeyb
Format:Audio CD
I do not yet own this box set. I am interested in buying this box set despite already having everything Orange Juice previously released. I looked at this Amazon page to look at the track-listing and, at the time of writing, the tracks are not in the product information. I tried to update the Amazon page to add in the tracks, but to no avail. This review is mainly to give other customers the chance to see what's on it. I'm rating the box set 5 stars because I am familiar with most of what's on it and, in my opinion, it's all wonderful. From the proto-indie soul of the Postcard years, through to the funk & eclecticism of their final flourish. Fabulous stuff. Congratulations to Domino for putting out such a comprehensive box set. Having read Christian Fletcher's customer review I'm relieved to hear that Domino have also done a good job on the sound, and not compressed it. Now I've seen what's on it, I'm going to be buying it. In the meantime, for those who also want to know what's on it, feast your eyes on these mouth-watering selections....

Disc One: The Glasgow School
01. Falling And Laughing
02. Moscow
03. Moscow Olympics
04. Felicity (live)
05. Blue Boy
06. Lovesick
07. Simply Thrilled Honey
08. Breakfast Time
09. Poor Old Soul, Pt. 1
10. Poor Old Soul, Pt. 2
11. Louise Louise
12. Three Cheers for Our Side
13. (To Put It in A) Nutshell
14. Satellite City
15. Consolation Prize
16. Holiday Hymn
17. Intuition Told Me, Pt. 1
18. Intuition Told Me, Pt. 2
19. Wan Light
20. Dying Day
21. Texas Fever
22. Tender Object
23. Poor Old Soul (French version)
24. Poor Old Soul (instrumental version)
25. Simply Thrilled Honey (live)
26. Botswana (live)
27. Time to Develop (live)
28. Blue Boy (live)

-Tracks 1-3 originally released in February 1980 ( Postcard 7" 80-1).
-Track 4 included in some early editions of Postcard 7" 80-1 as a flexi-disc and also available in issue 5 of the Ten Commandments fanzine. The original master tape for this recording (which was a live cassette bootleg recorded by Malcolm Ross) was unable to be located, so a high-quality recording was taken from one of the original flexi-discs and has been included for anthropological purposes.
-Tracks 5, 6 originally released in August 1980 (Postcard 7" 80-2) .
-Tracks 7, 8 originally released in November 1980 (Postcard 7" 80-6).
-Track 9, 10 originally released in March 1981 (Postcard 7" 81-2) .
-Tracks 11-22 recorded in May 1981 and released in September 1992 as Ostrich Churchyard (DUBH 922)
-Tracks 23, 24 originally released in March 1993 (Postcard DUBH 934CD)
-Tracks 25-28 originally released on a limited bonus cassette included with some copies of the "Rip It Up" 7" single (POSP 547) in February 1983 as The Felicity Flexi Session: The Formative Years and come from the same show as track 4 on disc one.

Disc Two: You Can't Hide Your Love Forever
01. Falling And Laughing
02. Untitled Melody
03. Wan Light
04. Tender Object
05. Dying Day
06. L.O.V.E. Love
07. Intuition Told Me, Pt. 1
08. Upwards And Onwards
09. Satellite City
10. Three Cheers For Our Side
11. Consolation Prize
12. Felicity
13. In A Nutshell
14. Intuition Told Me, Pt. 2
15. Moscow
16. You Old Eccentric
17. Two Hearts Together (10" version)
18. I Can't Help Myself (7" version)
19. Tongues Begin to Wag
20. Barbeque

-Tracks 1-13 originally released in February 1982 as You Can't Hide Your Love Forever (POLS 1057)
-Tracks 14, 15 originally released in October 1981 as b-sides to the "L.O.V.E. Love" single (POSP 357).
-Track 16 originally released in January 1982 as a b-side to the "Felicity" single (POSP 386).
-Track 17 originally released in August 1982 (POSP 470).
-Tracks 18-20 originally released in October 1982 (POSP 522)

Disc Three: Rip It Up
01. Rip It Up
02. A Million Pleading Faces
03. Mud In Your Eye
04. Turn Away
05. Breakfast Time
06. I Can't Help Myself
07. Flesh Of My Flesh
08. Louise Louise
09. Hokoyo
10. Tenterhook
11. Rip It Up (12" version)
12. Snake Charmer
13. Lovesick
14. Flesh Of My Flesh (7" version)
15. Lord John White And The Bottleneck Train (12" version)
16. Flesh Of My Flesh (12" version)
17. All That Ever Mattered

-Tracks 1-10 originally released in November 1982 as Rip It Up (POLS 1076)
-Tracks 11-13 originally released in February 1983 (POSP 547).
-Tracks 14-16 originally released in May 1983 (OJ 4).

Disc Four: Texas Fever
01. Bridge
02. Craziest Feeling
03. Punch Drunk
04. The Day I Went Down To Texas
05. A Place In My Heart
06. A Sad Lament
07. Out For The Count
08. Bridge (Summer '83 version)
09. Poor Old Soul (new version)
10. Leaner Period
11. Move Yourself
12. The Day I Went To Texas (flexi version)
13. I Feel A Song Coming On [Craziest Feeling]
14. Bridge
15. The Day I Went To Texas
16. A Place In My Heart
17. Out For The Count
18. Chinese Eyes [Punch Drunk]

-Tracks 1-6 originally released in March 1984 as Texas Fever (OJMLP 1)
-Tracks 7, 8 originally released in February 1984 as b-sides to the "Bridge" single (OJ 5).
-Track 9 included in some copies of OJ 5 as a flexi-disc.
-Tracks 10, 11 originally released in March 1998 as part of the CD re-issue of Texas Fever (539 982)
-Track 12 was given away in March 1983 as a free flexi-disc included in copies of Melody Maker.
-Tracks 13-18 are previously unreleased mixes of tracks from the Texas Fever recording sessions.

Disc Five: The Orange Juice
01. Lean Period
02. I Guess I'm Just A Little Too Sensitive
03. Burning Desire
04. Scaremonger
05. The Artisans
06. What Presence?!
07. Out For The Count
08. Get While The Gettings Good
09. All That Ever Mattered
10. Salmon Fishing In New York
11. What Presence?! (12" version)
12. A Place In My Heart (12" dub version)
13. In A Nutshell (live)
14. Simply Thrilled Honey (live)
15. Dying Day (live)
16. Bury My Head In My Hands
17. Lean Period (12" dub version)
18. Rip It Up (live)
19. What Presence?! (live)
20. Burning Desire ("Alexis" mix)

-Tracks 1-10 originally released in November 1984 as The Orange Juice (OJHP 2)
-Tracks 11, 12 originally released in April 1984 (OJ 6).
-Tracks 13-15 included in some copies of OJ 6 as a limited edition cassette.
-Tracks 16,17 originally released in October 1984 b-sides to the "Lean Period" single (OJ 7).
-Tracks 18,19 included in some copies of OJ 7 as a limited edition flexi-disc.

Disc Six: BBC Sessions
01. Poor Old Soul
02. You Old Eccentric
03. Falling And Laughing
04. Lovesick
05. Upwards And Onwards
06. Wan Light
07. Felicity
08. Dying Day
09. Holiday Hymn
10. Three Cheers For Our Side
11. Blokes on 45
12. Mud In Your Eye
13. I Can't Help Myself
14. In Spite Of It All [Two Hearts Together]
15. Turn Away
16. What Presence?!
17. Salmon Fishing In New York
18. Bridge
19. BBC interview part one
20. BBC interview part two

-Tracks 1-4 taken from the first session recorded for John Peel, October 1980.
-Tracks 5-7 taken from a session recorded for Mike Read, January 1981.
-Tracks 8-11 taken from the second session recorded for John Peel, August 1981.
-Tracks 12-15 taken from the first session recorded for Kid Jensen, April 1982.
-Tracks 16-18 taken from the second session recorded for Kid Jensen, February 1984.
-Tracks 19, 20 taken from an interview conducted by Richard Skinner at The BBC in February 1983.

Disc Seven: Dada With (The) Juice
Rip It Up (music video)
What Presence?! (music video, directed by Derek Jarman)
Rip It Up (Old Grey Whistle Test, originally aired October 8th, 1982)
I Can't Help Myself (Old Grey Whistle Test, originally aired October 8th, 1982)
What Presence? (Old Grey Whistle Test, originally aired December 11th, 1984)
Out For The Count (Old Grey Whistle Test, originally aired December 11th, 1984)

Dada With (The) Juice:
Salmon Fishing In New York
Dying Day
Falling And Laughing
In A Nutshell
Simply Thrilled Honey
A Place In My Heart
Craziest Feeling
Bridge
Rip It Up
Poor Old Soul
What Presence?!
The Day I Went Down To Texas
All That Ever Mattered / Diana
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3 of 3 people found the following review helpful
All Juiced Up 27 Feb 2011
Format:Audio CD
...I bought this as I was a bit of a fan of this band for a short period...I found it a fantastic set of songs...liner notes were excellent and it was good to hear proper music from the 80's..not the Culture Club/Duran sanitised version of the 80's that is peddled out there now...I strongly recommend this....
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6 of 8 people found the following review helpful
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I am a big fan of Orange Juice and would place them in my top 10 of favourite bands. However, for the last 10 years or so their music has only existed for me inside my head.

I emigrated from the UK and could not take my vinyl or cassettes with me and so had to get rid of my Orange Juice collection mainly via eBay. In the years since I have found it strangely difficult to re-buy this stuff on CD - until now.

First the good: this box has all the original LPs and they sound great and are reasonably well packaged with a fairly standard rock biog text thing. It has been quite a joy to listen to these properly again after so long. there is also a DVD to watch which I haven't actually seen yet as I do not usually like these things much (I find watching music a bit boring) but others very well may enjoy.

Now the bad: In creating this box set I can only imagine that Domino have decided to include every single thing Orange Juice ever did. I find it hard to believe there is anything left over. While some of this bonus content is nice indeed it is a shame that it has to all be tagged on to other albums CD space, so you end up listening to repeated versions of the same tracks and sometimes it is impossible to tell the versions apart. Worse still are the 80's 12" extended remixes. These were popular in the 80s and made some kind of sense for dance music but always looked stupid for guitar based rock.

So, for me this set is good-but-could-have-been-great. The Radio 1 sessions have been pooled together into a separate CD rather than being liberally splashed around the other CDs so that is some consolation.

I think they should have left the LPs as they were, and put together a single CD of the singles excluding 12" remixes and live versions. Despite my irritation with the structure of this package (I think The Beatles got it right with their 'no bonus tracks' policy) the music shines through and I am very happy to hear this music again after so long.
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