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Charles Mingus Presents Charles Mingus [Import]

Charles Mingus Audio CD
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  • Audio CD (5 Nov 2001)
  • Number of Discs: 1
  • Format: Import
  • Label: Candid
  • ASIN: B00004Z3R3
  • Other Editions: Audio CD  |  Vinyl  |  MP3 Download
  • Average Customer Review: 4.0 out of 5 stars  See all reviews (2 customer reviews)
  • Amazon Bestsellers Rank: 154,050 in Music (See Top 100 in Music)

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Listen  1. Folk Forms, No. 113:06Album Only
Listen  2. Original Faubus Fables 9:21£0.69  Buy MP3 
Listen  3. What Love15:24Album Only
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3 of 3 people found the following review helpful
Format:Audio CD
This is a 5 star album as the other reviews assert. Unfortunately this is a one star mastering onto CD. In very odd stereo with excessive hiss the sound is WOEFUL.

Thankfully Solar with the Complete Nat Henthoff Sessions box set have come to the rescue. Sounding suspiciously like the audiophile Mosaic masters, Presents is in the correct mono mix with 2 bonus tracks to present the complete session, and is totally superior to the Candid disc. You also get some marvellous Mingus Big Band sessions as well.

Buy that box and avoid the Candid CD!
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3 of 3 people found the following review helpful
5.0 out of 5 stars CM 30 April 2009
By Breeze
Format:Audio CD
Mingus here is reponding to Ornette Coleman's music I think. It's a line up of bass,drums, sax and trumpet.Coleman is incredible but Mingus is a better composer.What Love is the highlight and among Mingus' most beautiful compositions. Faubus with lyrics shows Migus'the fearless critic of intolerance. Buy with the other two Candid releases and weep at Mingus and Dolphy on Stormy Weather that didn't make the final cut on this disc.
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5.0 out of 5 stars One of the most incredible moments in Jazz ever recorded 29 Dec 2000
By C. Robinson - Published on Amazon.com
Format:Audio CD
This is one of those albums where, for whatever reason, a group got together and nailed it better than they ever had in the past. They read each others minds, locked in, and played music that spoke on a higher level than any of the four guys were normally capable of. And, lucky for us, the tape was rolling. Like Miles' 'Kind of Blue', like Ellington's 'Live at Newport', this is one of those moments that demostrate what an amazing art form Jazz can be.

This was recorded during Mingus' Jazz Workshop days. His group (Dannie Richmond, Ted Curson, & Eric Dolphy) had a regular club gig, but rather than 'perform' in the traditional sense, they would basically hold live rehearsals: try new things, experiment, learn, & grow. This particular group had been together for a while and was soon coming to an end (Dolphy was about to strike out on his own). Mingus pulled them into the studio to cut what they had been doing on wax.

Although a studio recording, Mingus treats it just like a regular Workshop club date, he even talks to the 'audience' (admonishing them, in true Mingus fashion, to please be quiet so they don't bother the band!). The opening bars of 'Folk Forms No. 1' almost have a 'here we go again...' quality. No one expected the night to go as well as it did. You can hear their enthusiasm build as the album plays, the energy level increases to stirring levels as the guys realize that they are making history here.

This album contains the definitive version of 'Fables of Faubus' (with Dannie Richmond screaming furiously at Gov. Faubus), and a fiery 'All the Things You Could Be...'. However, the crowning achievement of the date is 'What Love'. This is the track that put Eric Dolphy on the map for me. The piece culminates around a 'conversation' between Mingus' bass and Dolphy's bass clarinet...much, much better than the version on 'Live at Antibes'. This is probably the most expressive, evocative piece of musicianship that I know of. The liner notes offer a translation of what is 'said', but to me its stunning not for the words but the emotions that are expressed. Two bright stars (Dolphy, it would turn out, a Supernova) sharing feelings probably the only way they, as men, knew how.

You'd expect Mingus & Dolphy to steal the show, but that's not to say the other guys had a bad night. The highly under-rated Ted Curson lays it down something fierce, and Richmond is his usual 'united-with-Mingus-at-the-sub-atomic-level', hard swinging, high energy self.

A must-have for Mingus fans, and a great introduction to what he was about besides playing the hits on 'Mingus Ah-Hum'. Beyond that, this album is a stunning testament to the power of improvised music.

13 of 13 people found the following review helpful
1.0 out of 5 stars Audio Desecration of a Musical Masterpiece 16 Sep 2010
By SwissAmerican - Published on Amazon.com
Format:Audio CD
The engineer who transferred this landmark innovative jazz session should have turned down the job once he heard the source material provided to him. The original 1960 recording was done in two-channel format, intended for a mono mix. Around 1970, a two-channel copy generations removed from the original tape was used to master the Barnaby label LP of this recording. 30 years later, someone in the UK who has licensed the Candid label name sends this tape (or an even later generation copy) to an engineer who clearly has no conception of the historical significance of what he's listening to. Radical noise reduction completes the vandalism.

Fortunately, two alternatives to this CD exist. Pure Pleasure Records, whose products are distributed by Acoustic Sounds online, did their diligence and located a pristine mono master of the original recording. The LP is pressed on quiet 180-gram vinyl, and reveals the full emotional range of this unique session in the Mingus discography.

The other alternative is a 3-CD set entitled "Complete 1960 Net Hentoff Sessions" just released by one of the EU labels that are reissuing out-of-copyright jazz recordings. According to the Steve Hoffman forum, this set was likely copied from the Mosaic 3-CD box set of Mingus' Candid recordings. Amazon sells the "Nat Hentoff" set:

Complete 1960 Nat Hentoff Sessions

The "Mingus Presents Mingus" portion of Nat Hentoff 1960 set is derived from the superior mono tape.

If you love music, if you treasure the contributions of Charles Mingus and Eric Dolphy, do yourself a favor and buy the Pure Pleasure Records reissue. If you already own this CD, get the LP and do an A/B comparison. The difference is astonishing.
12 of 12 people found the following review helpful
5.0 out of 5 stars Punk Rock Jazz? Ah Um. Sure. 2 Mar 2003
By musicburgler - Published on Amazon.com
Format:Audio CD
This is one of my favorite all out no holds barred jazz albums. I'm more of a fan of the smaller units simply because you can hear each individual instrument better. Everyone playing on this simply grooves and the sound is Basic, Raw and actual seems like the live album it supposedly is.

Eric Dolphy's circular improvisation style is hear, full of sudden starts and stops in just the right places. Ted Curson's trumpet playing is just as good and in some spots, the two horns can be heard switching leads and intertwining so much that sometimes its hard to tell which is Curson and which is Dolphy.

Mingus himself obviously gets a more upfront role in this quartet than in his big band work. Some of the bass lines and solos he creates send my head bobbing and weaving.
Of course no great Mingus album is without the hard driving drums of Dannie Richmond.

As far as the actual pieces my favorite are the first two, FOLK FORMS NO. 1 and ORIGINAL FAUBUS FABLES. The former starts the album off with a bang and is more straight ahead bop style jazz than anything else on here. It is the 2nd longest piece but it goes by fast. Everyone takes a pretty even part in it as well.

ORIGINAL FAUBUS FABLES is the unrealeased version of the piece that appears on AH UM but this includes the intended vocals. A sarcastic "tribute" to racist Arkansas governor Orval Faubus who tried to prevent black students from attending the University despite federal law. Mingus and Dannie Richmond sing lines like, "Why is he so sick and ridiculous?...Dannie Richmond?" "They brain wash and teach you hate!!" the two yell. "Boo Nazi Facist Extremists!" " Governor Faubus!!" Its more something you have to hear for yourself.

WHAT LOVE takes things down a notch and is more of a ballad type piece. This is the longest cut and it can get long to listen to all the time especially after the first 2. The highlight of this however is the famed "conversation" that Eric Dolphy and Mingus have through the voices of their instruments. If you've never heard it you should, its magical. It sounds as if they are actual verbalizing, slowly "saying" things like "hey whats up?" "Yeah?" Yeah." They ask each other more chit chat type questions and answers, Then it gets more intense slowly rising until they are at one point "screaming" at each other, but they settle their differences before things get too much out of hand.

The last piece ALL THE THINGS YOU COULD BE BY NOW IF SIGMUND FREUD'S WIFE WAS YOUR MOTHER, is not as strange as you might think. Its more a mid tempo ballad but not as standout as anything else on the album, still good though.

This was the first album I heard from Mingus and Dolphy and it remains in my top five jazz album list to this day. Its the raw emotion, passion, sensitivity, humor, and skill that the genre Jazz really means, A MUST OWN OR MUST LISTEN TO ALBUM!

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