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Ceux qui inventent nont jamais vecu

Fly Pan Am Audio CD
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  • Audio CD (1 April 2002)
  • Number of Discs: 1
  • Label: Constellation
  • ASIN: B000063RY2
  • Other Editions: MP3 Download
  • Average Customer Review: 4.0 out of 5 stars  See all reviews (2 customer reviews)
  • Amazon Bestsellers Rank: 338,088 in Music (See Top 100 in Music)

1. Jeunesse Sonique, Tu Dors (En Cage)
2. Rompre L'indifference De L'inexitable Avant Que L'on Vienne Rompre Le Sommeil De L'inanime
3. Partially Sabotaged Distraction Partiellement Sabotee
4. Univoque/Equivoque
5. Arcades-Pamelor
6. Sound-Support Surface Noises Reaching Out To You
7. Erreur; Errance; Interdits De Par Leurs Nouvelles Possibilites
8. La Vie Se Doit D'etre Vecue Ou Commencons A Vivre

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8 of 8 people found the following review helpful
4.0 out of 5 stars non-comparable 18 Oct 2002
Format:Audio CD
All the bands on the Constellation record label get compared to Godspeed You Black Emperor. It's silly really, because none of them are that similar (except for the lack of vocals). Fly Pan Am are no exception either. there are no orchestral strings in this record. as it says on the inside cover (great packaging too, by the way. a trademark of constellation records), the music is comprised of "basse électronique, countrebasse (doublebass), guitares électiques et préparées, orgues á vent (wind organs?), orgue électrique, percussions, piano, piano préparé, rythme électronique. evidently they're very different from godspeed. they have some slight similarities to 'do make say think', with the more prominant guitar presence, but they're a bit less sparten, with a lot more constant music; you dont get the long moments of silence or slow mono-instrument riffs. as to whether this is a flaw or a pro is your decision.
as mentioned by the previous reviewer, though, the "cd skipping" is quite annoying and pointless, and cost the cd a full star in my review... although looking at this type of music compared to any other, it seems a bit trivial to downgrade an album such as this one, while someone can rate a heavy metal cd that they'll listen to for about 4 months with 5 stars. you'll be listening to this cd for years. my advice: buy it
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4 of 4 people found the following review helpful
4.0 out of 5 stars Best of their work yet 22 April 2002
By A Customer
Format:Audio CD
Fly Pan Am's first two releases suffered from over-minimalism. They had a stripped down post-rock sound, but were often short on innovation. Add to that the lack of vocals and impenetrable franglais track titles, and you were hard pushed to find much to enjoy on them.
This release has more body to it. It's still basically post-rock drones, but fleshed out with additional layers of noise, which add extra tensions to what could easily become soporific. There's also some fashionable CD skipping thrown in for good measure (or maybe it's just my copy!), which was probably not needed. But all-in-all, this is their best release yet.
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15 of 17 people found the following review helpful
4.0 out of 5 stars a new direction 26 April 2002
By nick storring - Published on Amazon.com
Format:Audio CD
This release, along with the new Do Make Say Think LP seem to suggest a new direction for the Montréal label Constellation. Furthermore, it seems as though the bands on the label are beginning to move out from underneath the shadow of the label's claim to fame, Godspeed You Black Emperor!.
"Ceux Qui Inventent..." take's the group's hybrid of minimalist Neu!-like repetition and jagged punk harmonies (with of course traces of the Godspeed! sound) to a new plane. While keeping that sound intact, a more funky sensibility has been introduced, reminscent of Fela Kuti's repetitious thrust, as well as a glitchy randomness, quite apart from the so-called "laptop" or "glitch" scene. By feigning error, the group repeatedly excites the listener, reminding them to remain attentive.
While bizarre, this amalgam is highly effective and sets this album apart from the groups "post-rock" peers. Along with the aforementioned DMST release, it also shows Constellation moving toward a more electronic & "produced" aesthetic, without compromising their trademark grittiness.
1 of 1 people found the following review helpful
2.0 out of 5 stars Fly united instead 6 July 2009
By IRate - Published on Amazon.com
Format:Audio CD
2 1/2

Despite creating comfortable cushions of angular noise to fall into, there is little meat on these apathetically experimental bones, barely masking third-rate Canned recyclables with inane noise manipulation to rarely produce moments of genuine vitality, as a brief final transition reminds.
5 of 11 people found the following review helpful
5.0 out of 5 stars What a Trip 29 Sep 2004
By V - Published on Amazon.com
Format:Audio CD
To start with, this I think is my favorite art-rock album I own, and not least for not knowing art-rock.

The constellation/alien8 scene is dandy, but of those bands that I would listen to more than once, fpa and dmst. I've just bought the new Fly Pan Am record which to be honest is quite a bit disappointing, but has forced me to go back to this record and share its laurels. And to finish with this shoddy intro, among those aforementioned bands' records, the two I've returned to consistently-this record and Do Make Say Think's "&yet&yet"

That being said, let's get to the details:

This album starts out with a minute long barely audible track of static and skipping and then breaks into the first (2nd) track which i believe is somewhere in the ballpark of 17 minutes long. Listening to it you wouldn't notice it though as it seamlessly dips between minimalist funk riffs and cascading shoegazer sections only to be cut in the middle by faux skips and static, and then again resuming where it left off. It's as if the double-drummer backbeat hooks you into a jam session where the band is trying to compose the extended sections for the song, only to be lured again and again into trying it mbv style. The second track seems like a continuation of the first with a sort of middle-eatern motif again turned shoegazer/punk. I can't remember the middle tracks too well at this second, but the closing number to this album is a truly epic number wherein the finale the bass lures you into to recollecting the sheer emotion and power of what you have been silently witnessing the whole time.

Again, i think it is my fav art-rock record, substance and style triumph over lyrics and scenester sensibilities. Mysteriously engaging...
2 of 17 people found the following review helpful
5.0 out of 5 stars solid 21 Jun 2002
By A Customer - Published on Amazon.com
Format:Audio CD
this album is just solid. you will like it if you're into the post-rock scene.
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