| ||||||||||||
|
Amazon.co.uk Trade-In Store
Did you know you can trade in your old books for an Amazon.co.uk Gift Card to spend on the things you want? Visit the Amazon.co.uk Trade-In Store for more details. |
Product details
|
Tags Customers Associate with This Product(What's this?)Click on a tag to find related items, discussions, and people.
|
|
Share your thoughts with other customers:
|
||||||||||||||||||||||
|
Most Helpful Customer Reviews
1 of 1 people found the following review helpful:
1.0 out of 5 stars
THE LADY OF FATIMA FALSELY DISCREDITED,
By
This review is from: Celestial Secrets: The Hidden History of the Fatima Incident (Paperback)
THE LADY OF FATIMA, FALSELY DISCREDITED
"Celestial Secrets : The Hidden History of the Fatima Incident" is the 2nd volume of a trilogy of books (in English) whose primary author is Portuguese professor/writer Joachim Fernandes, with some volumes co-authored by writer Fina D'Armada. The primary sponsor, editor and main promoter of this trilogy for the American market is the highly controversial amateur scientist, Ufologist Andrew D. Basiago. He is heavily involved in various writings about "Uncovering the Cover-ups", including NASA, so it is no surprise to find him to be the main driving force behind the scenes in this "Fatima Uncovered" enterprise in America. The core theme of all 3 Volumes is to seek to make the case that the well known Fatima, Portugal visionary events of 1917, were in reality a prime example of a visit to Earth by extraterrestrials in UFOs in that year. This requires going up against the Catholic Church that heavily supports and promulgates these events as none other than religious apparitions of the Virgin Mary, the mother of Jesus. The authors and promoters strive to buildup interest and credibility for this particular book series by highlighting their visit to the Fatima archives in 1978 and copiously displaying all of their meticulously detailed research activity. The prime tool used by the writers to try to convince the reader of their research prowess is the description of their visit to the secured Fatima Shrine archives in 1978, where they viewed the largely unknown personal notes of the local priests of that time, who interviewed the children. However, since then the Shrine has produced several volumes of this same archived Fatima documentation itself and the first one was published in 1992 titled "Documentacao Critica de Fatima: Volume I, Interrogatorios aos Videntes - 1917". (Interrogations of the Seers). The writers use this same Volume I often as a reference for their own viewpoints in "C.S." and I also have a copy of this particular Volume I in my own possession, that I will refer to in the remaining text as "Documentation.Vol I" . Using deceptive references to the publication "Documentation.Vol I", the writers have employed fabrication, the obvious omission of counterpoint information from the same context, and employing the selective "cherry-picking" of key phrases out of context, from these now published priests' personal notes. Mind you, this is the same source used by the writers to support their own controversial viewpoints. Sadly, these writers have also made extensive use of free association in their logical case to support all of their UFO theories. Against the Church and the visions they have employed a form of classical sophistic argument method where a few kernels of truth are wrapped up with distortions, misleading statements and the selective use of out-of-context phrases from a legitimate reference source. This produces a clever, deceiving story package disguised as a serious research effort, but in the final analysis it has only produced a sloppy, overwrought and fallacious product. To each his own on the general subject matter of Ufology, and if one would enjoy a disjointed work on a New Age subject for their reading list, then fine. However. "Celestial Secrets." decisively fails the test of making a serious critique or of launching a successful bid to effectively discredit the Catholic Church's religious claims and promulgation of what the Church terms as "Our Lady of Fatima and her Message". (SEE MY REVIEW AT AMAZON.COM for more details)
4.0 out of 5 stars
hyperspace,
By
This review is from: Celestial Secrets: The Hidden History of the Fatima Incident (Paperback)
Maybe we are dealing with a technology from a hyperspace Heaven.
or "How to cross 100,000 light years across our Milkey Way in a second". As a practising Roman Catholic I ask: "How many languages does this woman in the sky speak. Is she also fluent in the language of university higher mathematics? I'm sure Pope Benedict XVI is asking himself similar questions before the microphone as are the TV engineers trained in the mathematics of electronics and communications. Your post: 10 May 2009 17:47 BST Last edited by you 3 minutes ago Mr. Eric J. Dunphy says: The late Archbishop Fulton Sheen , professor of philosophy, declared on one of his TV broadcasts in the 1950s that angels knew more about the Ricci-Curbastro/Levi Civita tensor calculus of general relativity than did Albert Einstein. This is logically consistent if one is to have a proper definition, concept of angels. I am sure Pope Benedicat XVI would agree with the Bishop.The first message of Fatima from an insubstantial vision ( of the first category classified by St Augustine of Hippo - the self created one) never transpired in 1960. Fatima aside, one decides for oneself how the intellectual capabilities of angels compare to those of Albert Einstein, and the great mathematicians Gauss, Riemann, Henri Poincare, Fourier, Laplace ,Archimededes , Euclid et alle. The content of the messages at Fatima is capable of being delivered by both an angel or a half -wit! By Faith belief ,the saints are not just spiritually in Heaven but corporeally. The idea of a body in isolation is absurd without an environment to relate to such as a wooden table , a tree , a radio or a 3-D hologram technology. No doubt atheists would disagree and regard such a belief as rubbish. Each to his own is what I say.
2 of 8 people found the following review helpful:
5.0 out of 5 stars
Reason and facts against rumor,
By Giordano Bruno (Portugal) - See all my reviews
This review is from: Celestial Secrets: The Hidden History of the Fatima Incident (Paperback)
It seems that are people that cannot learn the differnce between a document and a fiction. If these authors quote dozens of original documents that were ignored by foreigner authors, what led some people to prefer the rumor and legends ignoring the truth facts mentioned here? Is their faith more important than facts never described before? What is demaning this kind of blind religion that turned superstition if they dont care about the truly Fatima documents that these historians compared here? Do theu know the difference beteween the original description of the "luminous lady" made by Lucia dos Santos in 1917 and the model that inspire the actual Fatima Lady statue? If they know nothing about this, what authority can have this kind of faith edified on an absolut and unsubstantial rumor that produced the classic Fatima image? Do they know about the preannounce of the 13th May published by a few Portuguese daily press by spiritist groups and catched by mediuns in February 1917? How can explain this kind of message within the catholic interpretation os the Fatima events? It's their catholicism a prisioner of a the "marian apparitions", a "private vision" phenomenon, well defined by Pope Benoit XVI Ratzinger and by this impossible to be adopted as a dogma? Do they know the ridicule of this situation: if we accept any "marian vision" as a Virgin Mary herself appearence how we would deal with other dozens of modern "contactees" visions of alien beings from other worlds? We have one important thing in common: the witness testimony. Nothing more. So, if we accept one we must accept the other. And we do not.
Share your thoughts with other customers: Create your own review
Would you like to see more reviews about this item?
|
|
|
This product's forum
Active discussions in related forums
Search Customer Discussions
|
Related forums
|
|