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  • Hardcover: 394 pages
  • Publisher: Loeb; Revised edition edition (1 July 1989)
  • Language: English, Latin
  • ISBN-10: 0674990072
  • ISBN-13: 978-0674990074
  • Product Dimensions: 10.2 x 2.5 x 15.2 cm
  • Average Customer Review: 4.8 out of 5 stars  See all reviews (4 customer reviews)
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An authoritative and up-to-date...text and a translation that communicates accurately and clearly the meaning of the Latin.--Michael Roberts "New England Classical Newsletter & Journal "

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Douglas F.S. Thomson is Professor Emeritus of Classics, University of Toronto. --This text refers to an out of print or unavailable edition of this title.


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14 of 14 people found the following review helpful By Roman Clodia TOP 100 REVIEWER on 4 May 2010
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Catullus, writing in the Rome of Julius Caesar and Cicero, is probably one of the most accessible of classical poets: his searing, emotionally raw and haunting Lesbia poems, especially, seem to inscribe the very nature of sexual obsession on the page.

But he is worth reading for the 'long' poems too, the extraordinary Attis poem (poem 63) and the Marriage of Peleus and Thetis (poem 64)which has such an impact on the Renaissance erotic epyllion.

In line with the other Loebs, this translates the poems into plain text, but it is impossible to convey the spiky texture of Catullus' original Latin.

If you have any Latin it's worth investing in this Loeb edition (Catullus' Latin in the love lyrics is pretty easy, probably about 'A' level standard, but the longer poems (c.63 and c.64) are difficult). But if not or you want a taster without the high price then I would recommend the Guy Lee Oxford World Classics translation which is much better than the Penguin looser translation.
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8 of 14 people found the following review helpful By A Customer on 31 Jan. 1999
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Thomson's edition of Catullus finally weds a commentary to his twenty-odd year old critical text. For the scholar of neoteric poetry, Thomson's book is a must; undergraduates will find it too vast and too unconcerned with elementary matters (also with literary matters) but very helpful for bibliography on each poem (a role Quinn's text was growing a bit long in the tooth for). Graduate students are compelled to use this as their standard text. Thomson is at his best when unraveling the often diffuse manuscript tradition of this often-read, little-understood poet. For classicists with only a passing interest in Catullus and his work, Fordyce (supplemented by Quinn for the "obscene" poems) remains more than usable.
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0 of 2 people found the following review helpful By Catherine Scott on 18 April 2015
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Wonderful as expected
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0 of 2 people found the following review helpful By Patty Frankel on 5 April 2015
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good book
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Ancients In a Translation That is Alive Today 3 May 2010
By S. H. Wells - Published on Amazon.com
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The Loeb Classical Library collects three poets of love together in one volume. First, Catullus is probably the most often studied poet of the group. The reading the poems and glancing across the page at the Latin original gives the reader a much stronger sense for how carefully crafted Catullus's verse is. The Loeb editon has been in circulation for about 90 years; however, it has recently been revised and reissued. Since Catullus was a little racy for the early 20th Century, many of his poems were translated into a very stilted form (or not translated at all). The new edition from Loeb corrects this and takes into account the 100 years of classical scholarship to produce a very authoratative and readable edition.

Second, Tibullus presents an interesting case, because few if any of his poems can directly be attributed to him. This in and of itself may not merit much attention -- particularly after reading the textual introduction which described just how torured a path classical texts have walked in coming down to us today. The poems about Sulpicia are the real interest here in that they may be written by her.

Finally, Tiberianus's Pervigilium Veneris attracts attention because it suggests the move away from classical poetry to Medieval forms.

The Loeb edition is well crafted with sewn binding and acid-free paper. These poets have survived 2000 years, and the Loeb edition is sure to be valued for generations.
34 of 44 people found the following review helpful
Major new edition of Catullus should become standard 31 Jan. 1999
By A Customer - Published on Amazon.com
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Thomson's edition of Catullus finally weds a commentary to his twenty-odd year old critical text. For the scholar of neoteric poetry, Thomson's book is a must; undergraduates will find it too vast and too unconcerned with elementary matters (also with literary matters) but very helpful for bibliography on each poem (a role Quinn's text was growing a bit long in the tooth for). Graduate students are compelled to use this as their standard text. Thomson is at his best when unraveling the often diffuse manuscript tradition of this often-read, little-understood poet. For classicists with only a passing interest in Catullus and his work, Fordyce (supplemented by Quinn for the "obscene" poems) remains more than usable.
12 of 16 people found the following review helpful
Catullus and Tibullus: Exemplars of Roman Love Poetry 14 Jan. 2005
By Johannes Platonicus - Published on Amazon.com
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Catullus and Tibullus relatively belong to the same epoch in the history of Latin Poetry; and they also derive their inspiration through the same source--from Erato the Muse of Love Poetry. What one will encounter, then, while reading their works, is what may be perhaps the finest manifestation of Roman Love Poetry that has been passed over to us through the ages. With the exception of Propertius or Ovid, Catullus and Tibullus have no rival when it comes to the art of love poetry; and one may argue that the former poets only surpass the later in their bulk of extant poems and in their depth of subject-matter. Also included in this volume, is the Vigil of Venus, a warm and colorful poem attributed to a certain Tiberianus, who belongs to much later time, likely during the reign of the Antonines. As the introduction points out, the Vigil of Venus contains the first piece of Romanticism to be found in Western Poetry. It is a poem of exceptional merit, and it is not unworthy of the majesty of Catullus and Tibullus. Taken as a whole, students of Latin Literature, and poets of our day, have much to learn and enjoy by reading these noble classics.
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A Great Help For An Inexperienced Latin Reader 5 Feb. 2015
By Grandjete - Published on Amazon.com
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I have taken 8 hours of college Latin, and have spent about 30 minutes a day reading for pleasure for most of the past year. I saw on youtube first, then read online somewhere Catullus 101, a beautiful and moving poem to the authors dead brother. It was so powerful, I decided to get this as my first truly serious Latin work (have a handful of the intermediate works, like "The Romans Speak For Themselves", and a selection of Caesars Commentaries that is heavily supported by English translations.)

Understand, Catullus in general is still beyond my abilities to read with facility. It takes a great deal of work for me at my level to grapple with Catullus' generally short poems.

However, I was greatly motivated to try, after hearing and reading Catullus 101, and I looked for some work that provided enough help for someone my level (2 strong semesters of college Latin + an intense interest). This reprint edition is it. I especially found the extensive help in the footnotes very useful to help my slogging. I still need a dictionary, and to check vocabulary online, but with the help of this edition much of Catullus is now open to me. It is exciting to read these poems and have a decent sense of what the poet was trying to say to us. Recommended
3 of 4 people found the following review helpful
Different edition... 23 Nov. 2009
By The Scythian - Published on Amazon.com
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I read all of the reviews on Amazon, but they all seem to refer to different editions than the one advertised. There are dozens of editions of Catullus, including at least two by Goold--but these two editions have quite different purposes. The Loeb edition has parallel texts, Latin and English, but no commentary. The advertised volume (ISBN 0715617109) is heavier on commentary and notes. I would like to see a review that evaluates this edition and its author's interpretations and opinions. In the meantime, the reader should ignore my rating of this item, I really don't know how good it is--just that the editor does have a distinguished reputation.
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