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Cage: Indeterminacy (2CD) Double CD

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Product details

  • Audio CD (21 Oct. 2009)
  • SPARS Code: DDD
  • Number of Discs: 2
  • Format: Double CD
  • Label: Smithsonian Folkways
  • ASIN: B000001DM2
  • Other Editions: MP3 Download
  • Average Customer Review: 5.0 out of 5 stars  See all reviews (2 customer reviews)
  • Amazon Bestsellers Rank: 284,186 in Music (See Top 100 in Music)

Track Listings

Disc: 1

  1. Ninety Stories With Music - David Tudor
  2. Ninety Stories With Music - David Tudor

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Though this work was recorded long ago, it's so innovative that even it sounds fresh and daring today. Buy this one and not the version by Susanne Kessel and Joachim Krol. As the stories were read in German by Krol, it's better to listen to the original version by Cage. Anyone who is interested in avant-garde music must not miss this record. It should be in the collection of every avant-garde music lovers.
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I first heard this in live performance and the bought the original vinyl recording in, I think, 1968. It had a profound effect on me as a 20 year old art student then and has continued to inform my life over the last 40 years. It would be my one record if I ever did Desert Island discs! A must in every record collection.
Colin from Somerset
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Amazon.com: HASH(0x8b4c2f24) out of 5 stars 13 reviews
28 of 29 people found the following review helpful
HASH(0x8b4cd300) out of 5 stars Inventive, amusing, irreverent, thoughtful, provocative 19 Nov. 1999
By Dr. Harry Smallenburg - Published on Amazon.com
Format: Audio CD
I first heard selections from "Indeterminacy" when I was driving on the freeway. I had to pull off and listen. I'd never heard anything like it. I filed it away in the back of my mind and one day wandered into a record shop in Ontario, Canada, where, what should I see, but "Indeterminacy" on a couple of LPs. When I finally found it on CD, I did the same thing I'd done with the LPs. Bought it immediately. The anecdotes Cage tells seem disarmingly simple and naive, but each one has larger ramifications: about how to listen to music, about how the world works or ought to work, about how music and the world are related, about questioning, etc. That is, about life's largest issues. And they're often very funny, told in Cage's unique dead-pan style--a precursor for many dead-pan narrators since. And David Tudor's background work is equally quirky, witty, surprising and inventive--sometimes punctuating Cage's stories, other times oblivious to the narrative, even smothering it. From the liner notes, Tudor and Cage had no connection to each other--they were working in different studios. Everything that happened in the "accompaniment" was indeterminate.
In short, this is a good collection to introduce yourself to one of America's most original and provocative composer/philosophers.
It always amazes me that the most amazing things, the wittiest, the most thoughtful, are among the least read or listened to items in the Amazon catalog. It's like the ads for movies: the larger the ad, the more you should avoid the film; hunt for the little things.
7 of 7 people found the following review helpful
HASH(0x8b3c2af8) out of 5 stars You don't need to be a fan 4 Dec. 2005
By Jumpingbird - Published on Amazon.com
Format: Audio CD
When still a teenager I ordered a copy of this on vinyl from the States. In those days sea mail took three months to get a package from New York to Australia and I had almost given up when I got the postcard in the mail to say my order had arrived. The cost was astronomical, but I've had no regrets.

The stories are marvellous and introduced me to the monks of India and Japan, a passion for mushrooms and spices, Cage's novel approach to music and sound, the customs men in Holland who allowed John Cage to enter the country backwards to avoid paying duty on his cigarettes, and his friend's delight in the 'ardour' of the Russian ballet performance she had just seen.

In the past twenty-five years, the stories have inspired me to see the world and spend nine years in Japan looking for an old iron gate that some movie star in Hollywood would want to buy.

Please listen to the samples and make your own judgement, but be warned you may become obsessed and see the world a little differently afterwards.
6 of 7 people found the following review helpful
HASH(0x8b770390) out of 5 stars Speechless. 22 Sept. 1999
By A Customer - Published on Amazon.com
Format: Audio CD
I love it!! I thought I could only listen to it once or twice. But it has never left my CD player. The Inside notes are excellent on this CD. This is one of John Cage's best works!! Highly recomended to the Curious. Every fan of John Cage or classical music must own this CD!!!
5 of 6 people found the following review helpful
HASH(0x8b7a6414) out of 5 stars What better lecture on indeterminacy in modern music? 25 July 2001
By A Customer - Published on Amazon.com
Format: Audio CD
If there is one thing John Cage taught us of open-minds, it was "just listen, expect nothing" and I can only add to the praise of this work and recording because, just as it should do, it fulfils different things for different people. It is entirely in keeping with Cage's philosophical vantage and easily his most approachable and oft-times amusing and thought-provoking work. Cage always reminds me I can still be astonished...and without that, life would lose something, I'm sure.
6 of 8 people found the following review helpful
HASH(0x8b4e9f60) out of 5 stars A Landmark of American Art 15 Sept. 1999
By DJ Rix - Published on Amazon.com
Format: Audio CD
How fresh this composition is after all these years. The wonderful potpourri of stories, parables & anecdotes recited at various paces according to Cage's aleatoric score, with surprising bursts of sound from David Tudor. A landmark of American art & a perfect place to begin an exploration of Cage's philosophy.

Bob Rixon, WFMU-FM
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