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Bruckner: Symphony 2 [CD]

Anton Bruckner , Georg Tintner , Ireland National Symphony Orchestra Audio CD
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  • Orchestra: Ireland National Symphony Orchestra
  • Conductor: Georg Tintner
  • Composer: Anton Bruckner
  • Audio CD (26 Feb 1998)
  • Number of Discs: 1
  • Format: CD
  • Label: Naxos
  • ASIN: B0000060D5
  • Other Editions: MP3 Download
  • Average Customer Review: 4.5 out of 5 stars  See all reviews (4 customer reviews)
  • Amazon Bestsellers Rank: 116,748 in Music (See Top 100 in Music)

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Listen  1. Symphony No. 2 in C Minor, WAB 102 (1872 first version, ed. W. Carragan): I. Ziemlich schnell20:54Album Only
Listen  2. Symphony No. 2 in C Minor, WAB 102 (1872 first version, ed. W. Carragan): II. Scherzo: Schnell10:59Album Only
Listen  3. Symphony No. 2 in C Minor, WAB 102 (1872 first version, ed. W. Carragan): III. Andante: Feierlich, etwas bewegt18:06Album Only
Listen  4. Symphony No. 2 in C Minor, WAB 102 (1872 first version, ed. W. Carragan): IV. Finale: Mehr schnell21:19Album Only


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Odd that, even now, Bruckner's Second Symphony is often left out of the reckoning. It's a transitional work in many respects, although the clear, powerful outlines of the mature symphonist are already in evidence, while the content is of a high quality. The wistful opening theme in the strings, the "Adagio"'s pastoral mysticism--such music could only be by Bruckner, although the expression is less monumental than it later became. Like several other of his symphonies, there's more than one edition: Georg Tintner gives you the original version, which means not just all the music, but the orchestration as Bruckner conceived it in 1872. The work emerges with a rhythmic incisiveness worthy of Schubert--and not even undertones of Wagner. Although the Ireland NSO may not be world-class, they certainly have the measure of Bruckner's style, but then they also have one of the finest living Bruckner interpreters to guide then through this eventful and life-enhancing work. Even were it three times the price, this disc would be self-recommending. --Richard Whitehouse

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Symphonie n° 2, WAB 102 / Orchestre Symphonique National d'Irlande, dir. Georg Tintner

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11 of 12 people found the following review helpful
5.0 out of 5 stars An Underrated Masterpiece 11 July 2003
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Bruckner's second symphony is often overlooked yet it is truly a magnificent work. If the climax to the first movement does not move you then you are already dead! Many great Bruckner conductors have failed to capture the humanity and power of this symphony but not Georg Tintner. In his 'indian summer' this is the jewel in the crown. Don't miss it.
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10 of 11 people found the following review helpful
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I bought this album merely to fill a gap in my collection....truth be told,i hadn't high hopes for this most overlooked Bruckner Symphony.
However,I've been hooked:the slow movement is utterly heart wrenching from the outset and the savage scherzo anticipates the 9th symphony's same movement.
Alot of the credit must surely go to Tintner:the edition chosen here (Bruckner's first thoughts)is much better than the Haas which Gunther Wand uses.The 2nd big climax (about 12 minutes in)of the slow movement is horribly touched up in the later version.Scherzo and slow movement are reversed in Bruckners later thoughts which again is less striking.
National Symphony orchestra of Ireland is not as plush as BPO or even Wand's Cologne Radio Orchestra but they play with such conviction under the assured but inpired baton of Tintner that any reservations can be brushed aside.
If you've never heard a Bruckner symphony or if previously you've grappled without success this could be a good place to start.
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1 of 1 people found the following review helpful
5.0 out of 5 stars An excellent addition to my Bruckner collection. 18 Aug 2013
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This is a Bruckner Symphony I,d never heard before and it did,nt dissappoint. The recording is excellent and the perfomance well balanced and true to the Bruckner spirit.
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3.0 out of 5 stars Beautifully prepared but not compelling 4 Jun 2007
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Bruckner composed his 2nd Symphony in 1871-72, but then went on to make a number of revisions to the score between 1873 and 1877. He also made some minor changes in 1892. Compared to the original 1872 score, the later versions involve the reversal of the order of the two inner movements, changes to the orchestration, and various cuts (mainly in the scherzo). Because the later versions offer what could be argued as only marginal improvements to the symphony, there is a strong case for hearing, if not actually preferring, the uncut 1872 version as presented here.

As a result of using the original score, Tintner's performance lasts 71 minutes. This is about 10 minutes longer than recordings by conductors who use one of the later versions of the score. Tintner's is a very well presented and played performance. On the negative side, however, I don't find the performance as compelling as the recordings I own by Barenboim, Jochum and Karajan. In particular, no one matches Karajan either in the wonderful slow movement or in the visionary episode around 5 minutes into the finale.

Naxos's recording quality is good, although slightly lacking in bass. Given the rarity of recordings of the 1872 version of the score, I'm pleased I have Tintner's performance in my collection, but I must admit I tend to use it more for reference than enjoyment.
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28 of 29 people found the following review helpful
5.0 out of 5 stars I'M IN HEAVEN 14 Sep 2000
By "davidsbundler" - Published on Amazon.com
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BRUCKNER's 2nd SYMPHONY
PERFORMANCE: 9 out of 10. RECORDING: 9 out of 10.
THE VERSIONS OF THE 2nd SYMPHONY:
There are 5 versions of this symphony. The first modern edition (by Robert Haas) is a composite of the 1877 version with elements of the 1872 version added. The second modern edition (by Leopold Nowak) apparently only indicates where the 1877 cuts should go and retains an error in the trumpet parts at the end of the first movement. (Often, conductors using the Nowak edition ignore many, if not all, of the cuts.) Since then, William Carragan edited the various versions of the 2nd and his editions supersede those of Haas and Nowak.
Tintner presents us with the original 1872 version (by Carragan). Many of the changes in the later versions involve rewrites, cuts and reorchestrations. Without going into a full discussion of all the changes, it should be said that the 1872 version is superior to the others because:
a) The scherzo comes second as break between the lyrical first movement and the slow movement;
b) The original horn ending of the slow movement is magical compared to the clarinet of later versions; &
c) There are no cuts.
It is true, there is a minor problem of orchestral balance at the very end of the finale, but Tintner overcomes that as well.
SUMMARY:
This CD lives up to the high standards that Dr. Tintner and Naxos have set. I hope that it will discourage the use of the later versions of this symphony. I heartily recommend the entire series to all those who are unfamiliar with the composer and to comparative "Brucknerheads".
18 of 20 people found the following review helpful
5.0 out of 5 stars The Carragan Edition 5 Jan 2001
By Howard G Brown - Published on Amazon.com
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This is actually the second recording of the Carragan Edition of Bruckner's Symphony No.2. Eichorn and the Linz Bruckner Orchestra offer this edition in two different releases. One, a two-disc set, also includes the 1873 revision of 1872. In 1873 the scherzo was moved to the more familiar third movement position. The other touches are too subtle to note, and I'm not sure anyone but a Bruckner scholar could spot the changes.
The Eichorn recording was also released coupled with rehearsal sessions (of 1872) on a second disc. Either way, Eichorn and his orchestra are equal to the challenge Tintner offers -- but Tintner on Naxos has a decided advantage in price. If you already own one of the Eichorn versions there is no reason to replace it. For those first coming to this version of the Bruckner Second, choose Tinter without a moment's reservation... !
13 of 14 people found the following review helpful
5.0 out of 5 stars Original version, as composer intended it to be- 19 July 2008
By Todd Nolan - Published on Amazon.com
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Although not a new release, and so less likely to be of help to potential buyers of the disc, I nevertheless feel the need to rave about this performance since a classical journal failed to even mention the Naxos/Tintner recording while recommending only the Eichorn in a Bruckner symphony overview.

Tintner's & Eichorn's are the only two (that I can find) that use the Carragan 1872 original version, but Tintner gets so much detail out of his Irish orchestra compared to Eichorn's. I'm in the extreme minority in having the 2nd as my favorite of Bruckner (I also think his Missa Solemnis and Requiem are better than the 3 famous Masses), so I'm probably more likely to notice small differences with this than the other symphonies. I listen to it far more often, and though I can respect another opinion's praise of the Linz orchestra of Eichorn, the Tintner is too beautiful to be passed over. Some like Karajan's Berlin recording from the late '70s or '80s, and some favor Giulini's Vienna disc. They're also worthwhile, but I hear more and experience it more acutely with the late Tintner. Sorry to see this wonderful recording passed over without an honorable mention. Definitely desert island stuff.
7 of 7 people found the following review helpful
5.0 out of 5 stars a wonderful recording.it has a rightness about it. 30 Oct 2005
By Peter Heddon - Published on Amazon.com
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This is the first time i've heard Bruckner 2 and this performance simply forces you to listen from the very outset.Bruckner can be tricky to grasp on first hearing but in Tintner's performance the argument is wonderfully lucid while not glossing over the rough hewn quality which is part of the essence of Bruckner.Orchestral playing is not up to the standards of Berlin(Karajan) or Dresden (Jochum)but this isn't a paramount issue.I can't imagine a more persuasive recording of Bruckner 2.
6 of 6 people found the following review helpful
5.0 out of 5 stars Bruckner's Greatest Early Symphony 11 July 2009
By Samuel Stephens - Published on Amazon.com
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It's not easy for me to make a ranking of any kind for Bruckner's early symphonies, becuase I love them so much. My main focus with Bruckner's symphonies in recent times has been his symphonies Nos.00-6. All are spectacular in their own way, and No.3 is a force to be reckoned with. Nos.4 and 5 need no advocacy from me, since they are well-known already. But the Symphony No.2 is surely left behind when rankings of Bruckner's symphonies appear.

In Michael Steinberg's book "The Symphony" he includes all the symphonies from No.4 onwards. A good argument might convince him that Nos. 2 and 3 also belonged in his otherwise excellent book. With the Second Symphony it's not just a matter of having Brucknerized-Schubert (as with the Sym. No.00). This symphony is a titan. The melodic material is far above average, the material is cohesive---even more cohesive than No.8---and the tunes are even more memorable than in many of his other symphonies.

It is also my opinion that the early symphonies of Bruckner, and this one in particular, have the advantage of having more interesting and exhilarting Finales than the more famous symphonies. This isn't just an underrated symphony that you might kinda-sorta like; It's a masterpiece that commands your attention.
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