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Billion BiPAC 7800N Dual WAN ADSL2+/Broadband Wireless-N Gigabit Firewall Modem Router

by Billion
4.3 out of 5 stars  See all reviews (419 customer reviews)
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  • Dual WAN interface for ADSL2/2+ or cable/fibre, Broadcom chipset
  • 4-port Gigabit LAN switch, 3 x 2 dbi Detachable antennas
  • 300 Mbps Wireless AP with WPA / WPA2 support 'N', ‘G’ and ‘B’
  • Business-class Firewall Security with DoS Prevention, SPI and packet filtering
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BrandBillion
Item Weight1.4 Kg
Product Dimensions15.5 x 23 x 3.7 cm
Item model numberBiPAC 7800N
  
Additional Information
ASINB002TOKGL8
Best Sellers Rank 824 in Computers & Accessories (See top 100)
Shipping Weight1.1 Kg
Date First Available16 Oct 2009
  
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A high quality 4-gigaport wireless 'N' Draft 2.0 modem/router that features a Dual WAN interface with one ADSL2/2+ port and an additional Ethernet WAN port for cable/fibre/2nd ADSL2/2+ connectivity. The 7800N offers increased wireless coverage and faster wireless speeds with 2T x 3R technology (2 transmit/3 receive), and is also integrated with a future-proof 4-port Gigabit LAN switch. In addition the 7800N incorporates a business-class firewall, and in fixed line mode offers fast Internet access via your ADSL line, with download speeds up to 24 Mbps with ADSL2+ and higher upload speeds with Annex M. Billion’s renowned built-in Quality of Service (QoS) feature for bandwidth management and traffic prioritization makes this an ideal model for the SOHO or small business user who is serious about security and high-performance.

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Billion BiPAC 7800N Dual WAN ADSL2Broadband Wireless N Gigabit Firewall ModemRouter Broadcom chipset BIPAC 7800N Networks Wireless Routers


Customer Reviews

Most Helpful Customer Reviews
188 of 190 people found the following review helpful
Amazon Verified Purchase
So impressed. Had it running more or less just a few clicks out of the box. Set it up on O2 LLU (ETH0A) broadband no trouble at all. I get a better SNR, web pages load much faster (whereas previously I had been thinking it was my ISP's slow DNS servers). Even my PING time has improved!

I previously wasted money (by trying to 'save money') by buying a separate gigabit switch and then attaching that to a flakey modem/router. By going 'cheap' you ALWAYS end up spending more in the long run! So I'm glad I bought this.

This just 'feels' professional (OK, it looks like a brick) but it feels solid.

As I work from home, I use VOIP for conference calls, Lotus sametime for powerpoints, while my son spends half-term break hammering the line with World of Warcraft! This box prioritises my calls (QoS) and doesn't bat an eyelid, like some other routers I've had. Many a time, I've had to reset previous routers, when they got overloaded or decided just to lose wireless connection when for no apparent reason.

The start-up screen was so easy - its even the first page the PC opened before I could even type in: 192.168.1.254! All menues are intuitive. Ok, as a man, I don't read manuals, but within 4 clicks and I was online. It even picked up the correct TIME for the event and security logs. There's loads of advanced menues, if you need them: dynamic DNS, Virtual server (port mapping, DMZ, ALG), IGMP, Wake-on-lan, time schedule, intrusion detection, UpNp, SnMp, Remote access, packet/mac/URL filtering, QoS, firmware upgrade, flash config save, the list goes on and on.

But if you want it simple, the default is BASIC and easy. No, really.

If you want super fast LAN and ADSL2+ (24mbs) internet, dazzling gigabit LAN speeds and wireless that climbs over walls, runs down the garden and tickles your toes in the garden shed - then this is for you! I wish I'd have bought this in the first place instead of wasting money.

It's Annex A hardware. Connection choices are:

1. MP0A (RFC 1483/RFC 2684, Multiprotocol, Encapsulation overAAl5) - - O2/BE use this one with VPI/VCI 0/101
2. PPP0E (RFC 2516, PPP over Ethernet)
3. PPP0A (RFC 2364 PPP over AAL5)
4. MP0A (RFC 1483/RFC 2684 Multiprotocol Encapsulation over AAl5)
5. IP0A (RFC 157, Classic IP and ARP over ATM)
6. Pure Bridge
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83 of 84 people found the following review helpful
By luke997 TOP 500 REVIEWER
Amazon Verified Purchase
This is the best ADSL wireless modem router - especially if live far from the phone exchange.

In the last 4 years I've been through 6 mode routers, D-Link, Netgear, Zyxel, Belkin.
All of them but Belkin (F5D8636-4 v2) broke over time but even the Belkin was very frequently (every few minutes + fluctuating speeds) disconnecting internet during moderate/heavy wireless activity (not sure why to this day - but it's well know problem with Belkin wirelless, fine over cable).

I live ~4.8km (attentuation 64-65db with SNR 6db) from the exchange and according to every broadband checker I should have 0,5 to no more than 1MB.

D-Link, Netgear, Zyxel got me 1.2-1.3MB
Belkin initially got me 1.4MB
Belkin with iplate, removed bellwire and extension wire got me 1.8MB

Guess what. Billion got me 2.4MB, rock stable, no more disconnecting no matter traffic (I have 5 WLAN clients and 2 LAN),I guess it's their PhyR technology which reduces noise - important on long lines.

Now all the good and bad points:

Good:
1) Fantastic ADSL performance on very long line
2) Excellent wireless (802.11n) performance
3) Rock stable with heavy ADSL and wireless traffic
4) Very easy setup
5) Lot of features

Bad (well I would say these are comments rather than bad points):
1) Large and rather ugly comparing to other brands (I don't care though, I need broadband to work as well as possible so I value function only)
2) Couldn't find option to turn off DHCP with static IP configuration for the devices
3) Not very flexible in MAC access configuration
4) Couldn't find option to change it's MAC address

Overall it's 5/5 with no hesitation.
What I expect from the modem router is best and stable broadband speed possible, with fast network for my devices.
This box does it more than well, it does it perfect and it's much, much better than any other access point I've ever head.

So once again it's worth paying more for best device. Great investment, worth every penny, recommended.

UPDATE:
It got even better - with tweaking I got 3.1MB! This is nothing short of amazing on my line!

Here are the changes I've done after some research
1) ADSL mode from ADSL2+ (untick) to ADSL2
2) Annex M (untick) to Annex L (tick)
3) SNR tweak -3db (value on the settings page = 50, page address is 192.168.1.254/snr.cgi)

This improved my attentuation to 61.5db, SNR stable at 3.5 to 4db (6.5 to 7 minus 3db tweak value) and got me 3.1MB stable connection. Fantastic!

UPDATE 2:
I've tweaked SNR some more (value 30) which took it to 2.3db and my connection is now stable @ 3.25MB.
Any lower SNR does not improve speed so this is my final settings. Excellent.

UPDATE 3:
After long months running without a single line drop reset, router started being unstable - started dropping connections, resetting, sometimes required power off/on cycle, up to a point where it was happening couple times a day.
Exactly the same thing I've had on my last Belkin router (the high end one, with Broadcom chip).

When I realised what's going on, I've raised a support ticket with Billion and within a week I've had a brand new router - fantastic service and I can enjoy best ever internet connection/stability again.

I think now that there was a large batch of faulty Broadcom chips which after heavy usage started to degrade - and chat with Billion support confirmed it in a way.

Hopefully the new one will have some new batch which won't degrade, but either way I'm not worried yet - still plenty warranty left so will watch this space.

My rating is still 5/5.
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19 of 19 people found the following review helpful
5.0 out of 5 stars Superb 7 Dec 2010
Amazon Verified Purchase
Purchased one to replace my second failed BT Home Hub 2. What a change. Instead of flaky connection at 150 Mbps, I now have solid 300 Mbps Wifi across my entire house. And its never dropped yet. The setup was done in about 2 mins flat. Sure, it's ugly compared to some routers but what you want is it to work. The only drama I had was assigning a fixed IP to a device on my network. Seems somewhat difficult for no particular reason (you have to copy and paste a MAC address from the DHCP allocation table. In other routers you just click and select the IP you want). That said it does work when you've set it up.

2 week update

Since installing this router I have noted the broadband speed has gone up from 3 Mbps with the BT HomeHub 2 to 5 Mbps with the Billion. BT really are peddling some crap kit. Never again.

4 month update

Unbelieveable. It just works. Never a dropped connection, never a stutter. Speed has crept up another meg too! It is what technology should be...fast, reliable and better than expected. I wish my Dyson vac was like that....instead its slow, broken and crap!

1 year update

Still solid. The latest firmware update 1.06d was easily done and adds IPv6. The system has beautifully mated up to a Synology and I shall be getting another one of these to replace my Dad's crap BT home hub.
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Most Recent Customer Reviews
4.0 out of 5 stars Once set up works very well
The 7800N came well recommended as the old router did not cover the whole (large) house with thick walls. Read more
Published 29 minutes ago by Mr. N. Oddy
5.0 out of 5 stars This router solves all my wifi problems
Since moving, I have been unable to get good, uninterrupted wireless reception in most rooms of my house, even after upgrading to a more up-to-date router supplied by my service... Read more
Published 7 days ago by Mrs. Dianne E. Carter
5.0 out of 5 stars this is good
My old netgear router kept dropping wi-fi for my tablets, and other wi-fi things. I assumed that it was because it was getting old. Read more
Published 10 days ago by Raymond P. O'brien
5.0 out of 5 stars Great Router
I changed this Router from a Netgear DG834 and I have no complaints with it. It was easy to set up, it is simple to make any changes and it worked out of the box as soon as the... Read more
Published 13 days ago by A. John Chubb
5.0 out of 5 stars ADSL speed increased
I did a huge research what modem i should by. I am far from the ADSL exchange and provider's modem did not work very well. Read more
Published 16 days ago by Peter
5.0 out of 5 stars Bipac 7800n
Excellent asdl router,I have a long line from the exchange and it has helped the download speed not massively but every little increase in speed helps. Read more
Published 23 days ago by M. Lawrence
5.0 out of 5 stars Better than it looks!
My trusty very old Linksys WAG54G V2 started failing (must be those aging capacitors) and, rather than try and fix it, I decided to look for a replacement that would work well on... Read more
Published 26 days ago by Yorkshire Lad
5.0 out of 5 stars Best Router I have had the privilege of owning
FYI I brought this Router/modem last August (2012).In the last 10 + years I have previously owned a Netgear DG843G (who hasn't? Read more
Published 1 month ago by T. Pattinson
5.0 out of 5 stars By far the best
Having tried several other expensive routers this gave by far the best reception in the house and actually increased my download speed according to internet speed test site by 20%.
Published 1 month ago by ZC21
5.0 out of 5 stars Absolutely Brilliant
I replaced a Linksys X3000 with this ADSL router, and immediately got a 1 Mbps improvement in line sync speed (and I'd already tuned and optimised my line to within an inch of its... Read more
Published 1 month ago by AtomicDoctor
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