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Between the Monster and the Saint: Reflections on the Human Condition [Hardcover]

Richard Holloway
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  • Hardcover: 240 pages
  • Publisher: Canongate Books Ltd (21 Aug 2008)
  • Language English
  • ISBN-10: 1847672531
  • ISBN-13: 978-1847672537
  • Product Dimensions: 21.6 x 13.6 x 2.6 cm
  • Average Customer Review: 5.0 out of 5 stars  See all reviews (1 customer review)
  • Amazon Bestsellers Rank: 361,678 in Books (See Top 100 in Books)

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"* 'I don't know when I have been more impressed, indeed, excited by a work... It answers the seemingly unanswerable, tormenting questions in a completely satisfying way' - Ruth Rendell * 'His writing is lucid, convincing and manifestly compassionate' - Dame Mary Warnock * 'Lucid and exhilarating' - Independent on Sunday * 'Full of human wisdom...a psychologically acute and absorbing approach to a very important subject' - Philip Pullman"

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'Richard Holloway brilliantly illuminates the divided spirit of man.'

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20 of 21 people found the following review helpful
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A few years ago, good friends of mine asked me to be the godfather to their eldest son. Being of no fixed religious abode, after much thought I declined: I don't believe in God, and it seemed somehow dishonest to swear to uphold his values. Ever since, while not resiling from my atheist beliefs at all, I have regretted letting dear friends down in this way, without ever having been able to rationalise why: my reasoning felt earnest, logical and therefore, I thought, impeccable. Nonetheless, deep down I couldn't shake the feeling it was absolutely wrong.

It was, and this wonderful little book by Richard Holloway has helped me understand why.

Holloway is, or was, formerly Bishop of Edinburgh in the Scottish Episcopal Church. More significantly, for the purposes of persuading your sceptical old goat of a correspondent, he's a learned, widely read and elegant writer who firmly sets his stall in the pragmatic, liberal tradition. Holloway appeals from the same quarter as the late Richard Rorty, and his underlying message resonates with Rorty's vision, eludicated in Contingency, Irony, and Solidarity of a diverse community characterised by its members' freedom to invoke whatever stories they feel suitable to provide meaning to their lives but bound by common assent that, such freedoms notwithstanding, as Judith Shklar put it, "cruelty is the worst thing we do".

Holloway's disposition is to frame his moral worldview in terms of lessons that can be learned from literature, philosophy and myth (science, generally, not being much help for forming moral worldviews) and, as pragmatists tend not to be, he's not bothered that complete and coherent reconciliation of all the works of literature he might cite is not possible (Holloway's range of references is as broad as it is eclectic, covering (among many others) Homer, Plato, the Bible, Descartes, Shakespeare, Shelley, Nietzsche, Marx, Freud, Dostoevsky, Tennessee Williams, Auden, Larkin, Rorty, Andrea Dworkin, Ridley Scott and Mike Newell - just try knitting that into a self-contained, consistent, coherent whole), provided that the parts he extracts, woven into the fabric of Holloway's philosophy, tell a meaningful story.

That is to say, provided our literature (however one might describe it) is deployed usefully in an instructive and metaphorical way, it doesn't matter that other aspects might suffer from internal logical inconsistencies or be at risk of factual falsification. To bother about such things is, to Richard Holloway, entirely to miss the point. And, while he (rightly) isn't mentioned even by name, anti-Christian aggravator-in-chief Richard Dawkins must surely be who Holloway has in mind when he alludes to the "particularly ugly debate" going on about this at the moment.

Instead, Holloway writes lyrically, elegantly, and forcefully about how we should be thinking about organising our lives, and his view is (quietly but convincingly) that science-toting pseudo-rationalists who seek societal Nirvana through squashing religions and other deemed irrationalities (Francis Wheen is, I suppose, another good example) are missing the point and poisoning the well from which, pragmatically, we all (religious or not) need to draw the water to irrigate our collective relations.

It is in the nature of his endeavour that Between the Monster and the Saint is a somewhat meandering journey, rather like the sort of woodland walk on which you can imagine Holloway embarking to ruminate on these verities, but it's also a short and sweetly written one, hearty and refreshing and, for me at least, it has had the restorative effect of a bracing excursion in a beautiful environment with a learned and thoughtful elder of the tribe.

I've made my apologies to my friends about the Christening, but I missed that boat. My loss. I won't do it again.

Olly Buxton
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Elegant, Eloquent and Erudite 15 Nov 2008
By O. Buxton - Published on Amazon.com
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A few years ago, good friends of mine asked me to be the godfather to their eldest son. Being of no fixed religious abode, after much thought I declined: I don't believe in God, and it seemed somehow dishonest to swear to uphold his values. Ever since, while not resiling from my atheist beliefs at all, I have regretted letting good friends down in this way, without ever having been able to rationalise why: my reasoning felt earnest, logical and therefore, I thought, impeccable. Nonetheless, deep down I couldn't shake the feeling it was absolutely wrong.

It was, and this wonderful little book by Richard Holloway has helped me understand why.

Holloway is, or was, formerly Bishop of Edinburgh in the Scottish Episcopal Church. More significantly, for the purposes of persuading this sceptical old goat of a correspondent, he's a learned, widely read and elegant writer who firmly sets his stall in the pragmatic, liberal tradition. Holloway appeals from the same quarter as the late Richard Rorty, and his underlying message resonates with Rorty's vision, eludicated in Contingency, Irony, and Solidarity of a diverse community characterised by its members' freedom to invoke whatever stories they feel suitable to provide meaning to their lives but bound by common assent that, such freedoms notwithstanding, as Judith Shklar put it, "cruelty is the worst thing we do".

Holloway's disposition is to frame his moral worldview in terms of lessons that can be learned from literature, philosophy and myth of all kinds, sacred and profane (science, generally, not being much help in forming moral worldviews) and, as is typical of pragmatists, he's not bothered that complete and coherent reconciliation of all the works of literature he might cite is not possible (Holloway's range of references is as broad as it is eclectic, covering (among many others) Homer, Plato, the Bible, Descartes, Shakespeare, Shelley, Nietzsche, Marx, Freud, Dostoevsky, Tennessee Williams, Auden, Larkin, Rorty, Andrea Dworkin, Ridley Scott and Mike Newell - just try knitting that into a self-contained, consistent, coherent whole), provided that the parts he extracts, woven into the fabric of Holloway's philosophy, tell a meaningful story.

That is to say, provided our literature (however one might describe it) is deployed usefully in an instructive and metaphorical way, it doesn't matter that other aspects might suffer from internal logical inconsistencies or be at risk of factual falsification. To bother about such things is, to Richard Holloway, entirely to miss the point. And, while he (rightly) isn't mentioned even by name, anti-Christian aggravator-in-chief Richard Dawkins must surely be who Holloway has in mind when he alludes to the "particularly ugly debate" going on about this at the moment.

Instead, Holloway writes lyrically, elegantly, and forcefully about how we should be thinking about organising our lives, and his view is (quietly but convincingly) that pseudo-rationalists who seek societal Nirvana through squashing religions and other deemed irrationalities (another good example of this tendency is Francis Wheen) are missing the point and poisoning the well from which, pragmatically, we all (religious or not) need to draw the water to irrigate our collective relations.

It is in the nature of his endeavour that it's a somewhat meandering walk, rather like the sort of woodland ramble on which you can imagine Holloway embarking to ruminate on the topics covered in this book, but it's also a short and sweetly written one, hearty and refreshing, and for me at least it has had the restorative effect of just such a bracing excursion in a beautiful environment with a learned and thoughtful elder of the tribe.

I've made my apologies to my friends about the Christening, but I missed that boat. My loss. I won't do it again.

Olly Buxton
1 of 1 people found the following review helpful
Where are all the positive reviews for this book? 28 Feb 2010
By Shane Johnson - Published on Amazon.com
Format:Hardcover
The single other customer review for this book (at the time of writing) sums it up wonderfully, and I have little to add to it, except perhaps to express surprise at how this superb little book has not attracted wider praise. But I will add my little bit. Richard Holloway provides the most refreshingly wise, mature and common-sense accounts of the human condition I have ever come across. He draws from a wide variety of sources - religion, science, philosophy and art - without any need to denigrate or marginalize. Rather, he synthesizes all of these things in a beautifully balanced treatise on what it means to live. Erudite, poetic and easy to read, I cannot recommend this book highly enough to anyone remotely interested in the subject matter. Thank you Richard Holloway.
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