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Behind The Flying Saucers: The Truth About The Aztec UFO Crash [Large Print] [Paperback]

Frank Scully , Sean Casteel , Scott Ramsey , Stanton Friedman , Nick Redfern , Art Cambell , Frank Warren

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7 Mar 2012
"The CONSPIRACY JOURNAL is very proud to offer this expanded version of perhaps the most seminal book in the history of the unexplained . . . a case that now stands right beside the UFO crash at Roswell, MN for its credibility and veracity. For years the Aztec case was spurned by serious researchers who did not have access to all the information now available on the crash. In addition to reprinting the entire, unabridged, text to the rare 50s Scully book (reset in an easy to read, "large print," large format edition) journalist Sean Casteel has dug deep to provide the reader with an updated account of what really happened outside this isolated desert town near the Four Corners. His up to date research on Aztec includes material supplied by such outstanding researchers as NICK REDFERN -- STANTON FRIEDMAN -- ART CAMPBELL -- SCOTT and SUZANNE RAMSEY." --Tim Beckley Conspiracy Journal "Well, I had my copies of the book arrive in the mail yesterday, and I have to say that regardless of your personal thoughts on Aztec (hoax, real, disinfo op, the list goes on...), this new edition will be a valuable addition to your UFO library. "Not only does it allow you to obtain a brand new edition of a much sought after title (and indeed the first alleged non-fiction book on crashed UFOs - it was published in 1950), but you also get several other things too; including an interview with me about the FBI s files on Aztec and their files on the key players in the strange saga: Silas Newton and Leo Gebauer. "You also get an interview with Stan Friedman, who offers his opinions on the affair and on the so-called Farmington Armada ; black-budget ops; and the question of: Why New Mexico? Scott Ramsay is interviewed about his ongoing research (which includes a section on some of his interviewees) and his forthcoming book on Aztec; and Art Campbell speaks about both the case, other reported New Mexico events, and the Eisenhower met aliens story of 1954. "So, all in all, if crashed UFOs are your gig, then you ll definitely want this. And if you are looking to learn more about the early years of UFOs in general, this is an essential purchase, in a handy, affordable package! --Nick Redfern - UFO Mystic"

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  • Paperback: 212 pages
  • Publisher: Inner Light - Global Communications (7 Mar 2012)
  • Language: English
  • ISBN-10: 1606110209
  • ISBN-13: 978-1606110201
  • Product Dimensions: 1.1 x 21.3 x 27.5 cm
  • Amazon Bestsellers Rank: 709,447 in Books (See Top 100 in Books)

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4.0 out of 5 stars Alien technology recovered in NM before 1950? Strong case made in Scully's classic book 17 Jun 2010
By The Guardian - Published on Amazon.com
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This is a 2008 "Conspiracy Journal" reprint of Frank Scully's original book which caused something of a stir on its publication in 1950. Scully was a successful journalist with a national profile who claimed he had information that a dome-shaped craft of non-human origin had crashed in Aztec NM in 1948, been recovered by the military and the whole incident hushed-up by the Truman administration. He also claimed a number of dead bodies of small, humanoid aliens were recovered from the crash. In 1950, no details of the 1947 Roswell crash recovery had leaked into the public domain. With the exception of Donald Keyhoe mentioning widespread Air Force mess-hall rumors of a saucer crash-recovery event in NM in his second book, the idea did not enter the mainstream until the 1980s. So in 1950, Scully's public claims were revolutionary and led to sales of 62,000 copies in several printings, an enormous number at that time. As a consequence, Scully became a minor national celebrity.

Controversy surrounds Scully's main informants Leo GeBauer and Silas Newton. These guys were financial players, oil investors and speculators who had business dealings in all the Four Corners states. Following the publication of Scully's book in 1950, the FBI went after GeBauer and Newton and started a campaign to discredit them ending with their conviction in a court in Denver when they were ordered to pay back US$18,000 to an "investor", Herman Flader. However, no other investors dealing with GeBauer or Newton ever had any complaints and all refused to testify against them, and the tenacious defamation campaign mounted by the FBI failed to make anything else stick. The Flader conviction did its job, however, and mud had stuck on Scully's expose of the Aztec crash: the book went out of print and the story slowly faded from memory.

The long introductory section to this CJ edition includes a piece by Sean Casteel summarising the evidence unearthed by UK researcher Nick Redfern, who spent a great deal of time investigating the story in the 1980s and 90s and uncovered a substantial paper trail including FBI files on GeBauer, Newton and Scully. 200 pages of documentation on the case remain classified, even after 60 years. Stan Friedman is also interviewed at length and gives his opinions on the episode and its likely authenticity, and Casteel also profiles the extensive work of respected researcher Scott Ramsey into the affair. The overall assessment is that Something Happened out there in the desert which cannot be dismissed as a hoax, and the story at core is probably true.

The text of the book itself is prefaced by an introduction by the original author whose description of the encroaching "National Security" apparatus into the lives of ordinary citizens in 1950 is highly prescient and absolutely relevant to the 21st century. The text of the original book takes up 133 pages, due to the large page format adopted by CJ enabling a greater number of characters per page and some compression.

The book is short but good, and worth reading. Without going into too much detail, Scully describes an intriguing incident involving a mysterious "scientist" reported as giving a lecture to students at the University of Colorado talking about UFOs, advanced physics and crash recoveries. He then details contemporary sightings and encounters and speculates about interplanetary travel, describes and illustrates the current aerospace industry's attempts to design disk-shaped craft which would fly (a project designed to discredit encounters with non-human-origin UFOs by alleging confusion with more prosaic aircraft), discusses Einstein and the Unified Field Theory and lists 20 questions about the management of the UFO phenomenon which he put to "Pentagon desk generals" - not one of which was answered. The episode describing the NM crash recovery is actually quite short and scant on detail, but as it was reported to Scully second-hand he simply gives the facts as he heard them and does not enter into extensive speculation about the case.

Despite - or perhaps because of - the controversy surrounding Scully's book and the FBI's persistent and ruthless campaign to discredit him and his informants, this is an important book historically. It was one of the first ever to address the UFO issue in print, pre-dating Donald Keyhoe's "The Flying Saucers are Real!" by several months, and the first ever book to discuss or even refer to credible reports of crashed and recovered alien technology.

You can still find the original 1950 hardcover book, as so many were printed and are still in circulation. However the updated 2008 CJ version containing the interviews with Redfern, Friedman et al is more informative about the history behind it all and this is the one I would recommend.
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5.0 out of 5 stars Roswell or Aztec, New Mexico? 5 July 2012
By David Seals - Published on Amazon.com
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Just suppose for a moment that Frank Scully was telling the truth in 1950, and that Charles Berlitz and William L. Moore were also telling the truth about him in 1980 in their book 'The Roswell Incident'.

It was in the re-reading of Berlitz's and Moore's important book recently that I went back to Scully's book which I had never read - because I had always been told it was a ludicrous yarn, or sort of an old-fashioned, poorly-researched, crude, early thing; and wasn't worth bothering with. We in our hip New UFO Age should only laugh at it. I was born in 1947 so I remember the old Flying Saucer comic books well, and, well, the cover of this one looked about on that level. But when Berlitz and Moore made some good comments about it, and I looked around and saw Stanton Friedman also had some good things to say about it, well, I'd give it a look too.

I was also intrigued by statements Berltiz/Moore made in their book, implying Scully had his New Mexico towns mixed up and his account of the 1948 Event at Aztec was, well, really 1947 (or so, maybe even earlier) at Roswell. "As it was impossible to cover up the incident completely, a lively legend, if legend it is, has persisted to this day and it was to be expected that a book would be published about it as close as possible to the time of the incident. Such a book - 'Behind the Flying Saucers' (Holt, 1950) - was written by Frank Scully, an author and syndicated columnist who based his information on the original report of a saucer crash in New Mexico and the alleged recovery of the ship and the dead bodies of its alien crew by the U.S. military. It appears, perhaps because of his haste to finish the book while the subject was 'hot', that Scully plunged into print without sufficient checking. . . Scully placed the area of the crash near Aztec, in the upper western corner of the state, hundreds of miles from Roswell, and this mistake is still evident in UFO and other books published throughout the world." [pp. 49-51, 'The Roswell Incident']

A lot of research has been done since then, of course, and several studies have come out with more details of Aztec, and the local library there has been hosting an annual event with guest speakers and eyewitnesses. This volume by Conspiracy Journal has added other analysts as well to the full text of Scully's book.

By why, really, did Berlitz and Moore think Scully was wrong with his location?

I have to say I was genuinely amazed at how good it was, to start with. If this was a fuller report on the Roswell Incident I was thrilled by the wealth of new information, which of course was over 60 years old and published in a popular bestseller close to the time the incidents happened. It was not that there was a blackout on the stuff. People knew a lot about it, if only from Scully's book, and a few important articles in magazines. It would be truly astonishing, and disturbing, if those hokey old 1950s I remember so well were more truthful and faithful than what we're getting today in all our so-called technological sophistication and erudite education. There were other books like Capt. Ruppelt's 'The Report on Unidentified Flying Objects' and Daniel Fry's 'Incident at White Sands' and even films in the early 50s like 'Invaders from Mars' which look crude to us now, but, doggone it, they were still a lot more honest than all the blockbuster torture porn we're getting now in the name of Art and Science Fiction.

Scully personally shocked me as well, when his book starts in Denver in 1950, with a lecture at the University of Denver where my father had just graduated with a B.A. in aeronautical engineering. Dad had been an AAF pilot at Roswell from 1944-47, where he and Mom got married and I was their oldest kid to come along right then. I covered our personal involvement in my 2008 Memoir 'Abduction at Roswell' [revised and expanded as 'Flagstaff'], as well as my mother's family's close connection to Percival Lowell in their hometown of Flagstaff, Arizona, where a lot of the idea of Martians first got started in the 1890s. We always had a close connection to the story, and I wouldn't doubt that my father was in the audience that day. (Scully even writes on p. 45 that the mysterious lecturer's name is "Mr. Sears"!)

"It happened on March 8, 1950, in Denver, Colorado. On that day at 12:30 P.M. 350 students of the University of Denver skipped lunch to hear a confidential scientific discourse delivered by what the press described later as 'an unidentified middle-aged lecturer'." Scully skillfully begins the story like a dramatic novel to keep your interest, but it's in Chapter 2, 'What the Scientist Said', that he gets to the heart of the book. "He was saying that four of these flying saucers had actually landed on this earth. Three of the four, he added, had been captured and had been inspected by men with whom he was currently identified in geophysical research. Thirty-four men, measuring between thirty-six inches to forty inches in height had been found dead in three of the saucers discovered.

"The first saucer to land on this earth, he said, landed less than two years previous to his talk, 'on a site within 500 miles of Denver'."

Landed. Not crashed. Both Roswell and Aztec are roughly within 500 miles of Denver, and I've lived all around that area, in Colorado and New Mexico and have known it well, as have my ancestors who go back in the same region at least 125 years. The only authentic, contemporary reports we have of Roswell are on the newspaper stories of July 8 and 9, 1947, and they say, in the official AAF press release sent by Lt. Haut from the Roswell Base, quote, "The flying object LANDED on a ranch near Roswell sometime last week. Not having phone facilities, the rancher stored the disc . . . " [pp. 24-25]

Scully goes on in great detail that everyone should read, if they're interested at all in the truth of what's going on. He also covers in a lot of detail the history and science of it in anything but a comic book style, even though he has a healthy and irreverent sense of humor throughout about the government-types. Whatever relationship these authors may or may not have had with covert Intel-types can be read between the lines. But it really comes back to a belief based on knowledge, facts, serious study, and not just ignorant ridicule of things far behind the flying saucers.

[Seals has other books on the subject, in paperback and kindle on Amazon: 'Invaders from Mars Hill', 'Martians: The Flagstaff Observations of Percival Lowell', 'The Herodeia Decalogue - Poems of the Pagan Revolution', and sections of 'The Creation Myth: Science and Poetry']
1 of 1 people found the following review helpful
4.0 out of 5 stars Overpriced Reprint of Classic Book 26 Mar 2013
By Johns - Published on Amazon.com
Format:Paperback
This is billed as an expanded edition of Behind the Flying Saucers. However, none of the extra material comes from Frank Scully. They could have included the chapter from In Armour Bright which covers his UFO research and the article that Scully wrote for the October 1953 issue of Albert Bender's Space Review.

The new material contains no major new revelations. Scully and Newton were spied upon: so what? A couple of witnesses provide brief testimony. UFO Crash at Aztec: A Well Kept Secret is a great book for anyone wishing to learn more... but it is now out of print and expensive.

$25 is overpriced for a new book, which is in bloated A4 format. The original paperback was only about a third of the size and contains only ten more pages than is taken by Scully's words in this reprint. The large font will make it easy for the visually impaired to read.

But, the original paperback is now becoming expensive, so this is an alternative.
0 of 1 people found the following review helpful
3.0 out of 5 stars I'm sitting here: 31 Oct 2013
By Dean - Published on Amazon.com
Format:Paperback
to the UFO TV version of this and they're saying the book version is nothing but a big hoax by Frank Skully so is it real or not?
0 of 1 people found the following review helpful
5.0 out of 5 stars Very interesting with Information Not Previously Disclosed 15 Jan 2013
By A. harley - Published on Amazon.com
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I purchased two MIB books. This copy is very detailed oriented and basically an overview of everything that occurred back in the 40s and 50s. It is an interesting read. The first chapter in how MIB phenomena all started was just unbelievably hilarious. I won't give it away, but it goes to show you how gullible people were in the 1950s. At the conclusion of the book, I cannot honestly state that MIB do not exist; however, you do not hear about MIB stories any more. I think if MIB do exist they probably have changed tactics since they were so inept, but I also think the US government was behind alot of it. You keep the cows corralled by keeping them scared. In the end, their behavior reflects what you want them to do.
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