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  1. Alt. more worlds than known Proto-Kaw 7:30 Not Available  
  2. Words of honor Proto-Kaw 4:29 Not Available  
  3. Leaven Proto-Kaw 8:30 Not Available  
  4. Axolotl Proto-Kaw 6:06 Not Available  
  5. Quantum leapfrog Proto-Kaw 5:44 Not Available  
  6. Greenburg, Glickstein, Charles, David, Smith and Jones Proto-Kaw 3:05 Not Available  
  7. Gloriana Proto-Kaw 9:10 Not Available  
  8. Occasion of your honest dreaming Proto-Kaw 3:40 Not Available  
  9. Heavenly man Proto-Kaw 5:56 Not Available  
10. Theophany Proto-Kaw 11:44 Not Available  
11. Belexes (Bonustrack) Proto-Kaw 8:04 Not Available  
12. It moves you (Bonustrack) Proto-Kaw 4:28 Not Available  
13. Words of honor (Single edit) (Bonustrack) Proto-Kaw 5:48 Not Available  
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5 of 5 people found the following review helpful
By Dr. D. B. Sillars VINE™ VOICE
Format:Audio CD
Now this is a story! Kansas were one of the most successful American progressive rock bands of the mid 70's, even having a mainstream hit with "Carry on Wayward Son" from the "Leftoverture" album. But an earlier version of Kansas recorded some demos and then split with most members going their separate ways, some to leave music behind and head for different careers and jobs! Main Kansas songwriter, Kerry Livgren put together those demos recently for a planned archival release and contacted his old band mates again to get release approval. The interest those recordings generated and the resumption of friendships resulted in the formation of Proto-Kaw and recording some new music, which this album is the result of. And what a cracker it is too.

It is hard to believe that these musicians have not played together in over 30 years and staggering that some have not even played any musical instruments in that time. Though the material is written by Kerry Livgren, the contributions from the other players is crucial in terms of the arrangements and overall feel of the album.

Prot-Kaw does sound like a cohesive band and one that has produced a very distinguished recording. Kansas were masters at combining the symphonic elements of progressive rock as exemplified by the likes of Genesis and Yes together with their own brand of southern rock. The music was at once complex and involving, but at the same time melodic and accessible and that was what made Kansas so popular. The main musical difference between Kansas and Prot-Kaw is the use of saxes and flute over violin. That lends to a beefier and jazzier sound and is used to good effect on this album.

The Kansas mixture of accessibility and complexity is in evidence throughout, but the music has a harder, more progressive edge in comparison to Kansas's last studio effort, "Somewhere to Elsewhere" which was also actually pretty good in itself. The centrepiece of the album is the impressive 11 minute plus "Theophany" with its' ELP styled intro. Good keyboard work from Dan Wright on organ and synthesisers. Singer Lynn Meredith is also to be applauded. He has a very pure, characterful voice which adds a warm, friendly feeling to the performances.

There are lots going on here musically, such is the richness and sophistication of each track. The band has really experimented with the material on offer. The mixture of strong, highly melodic songrwriting and complex symphonic arrangements is very appealing. On the evidence of this album and his work on most of Kansas's early back catalogue and their last studio album, Kerry Livgren has to be considered one of the most important figures in American progressive rock.

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4 of 4 people found the following review helpful
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The only shame about this CD is that Protokaw have only reformed now. If only this version of Kansas could have got together earlier and made more music. What have we lost in those missing years???
This CD is a must buy. Its a mixture of rock(ala Kansas, Yes, Genesis) plus jazzier arrangements (ala King Crimson, pink floyd)plus more psychedalic elements (ala Jefferson Staship and Grateful Dead.
It's mind-blowing. From the fantastic "On the Occasion of your honest dreaming" to the beautful "words of Honor" every track is a killer. "Leaven" is wonderful with its deeply spoken narrative punctuating the music.
Fans of good rock music will not be disappointed. Buy Buy Buy. You won't regret it. Honest.
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37 of 37 people found the following review helpful
A Triumphant Return!!! 8 April 2004
By Louie Bourland - Published on Amazon.com
Format:Audio CD
In the Summer of 2002, a collection of unreleased demos from the legendary progressive/arena rock band Kansas was released. The CD, entitled "Proto-Kaw", consisted of recordings made by the band line-up that pre-dated the one that made Kansas a household name. For many, the "Proto-Kaw" CD was a like opening a treasure chest for Kansas fans. The CD was so successful that it brought members of that particular line-up together again for the first time in over 30 years. The end result is "Before Became After", the first recordings made by the Kansas "Proto-Kaw" line up since 1973.
The band line-up for this fabulous reunion consists of Kansas mastermind Kerry Livgren on guitar and keyboards, Lynn Meredith on vocals, John Bolton on sax, Dan Wright on keyboards, Brad Schulz on drums and Craig Kew on bass. Kew is the only member of Proto-Kaw not to have been part of the band previously. He replaces bassist Rod Mikinski who plays on one track on this CD. Also not present is keyboardist/wind player Don Montre who passed away several years back. In the CD booklet is a small dedication to him.
Musically, "Before Became After" picks up where the band left off over 30 years ago. It's almost as if they never went away. Tracks such as "More Worlds Than Unknown", "Glorianna", "Quantum Leapfrog" and "Leaven" are full of Kerry Livgren's musical trademarks and signature orchestrations. Lynn Meredith's voice sounds almost the same as it does on the first "Proto-Kaw" disc. "Axolotl" and "Theophany" are both brand new recordings from the bands early 70s repertoire and are heard for the very first time on this CD. "Occasion of Your Honest Dreaming" captures a more light MOR-pop style with shadings of The Moody Blues.
Hands down, this is an awesome CD. If your a Kansas fan, this is definitely an essential addition to your collection. Kerry Livgren's compositional style is better than ever and this group of musicians is as strong and solid as when they made their initial demos over 30 years ago. It's great to have the boys back in business again.
The special edition of "Before Became After" comes in a hardcover CD booklet and includes a bonus disc. On the bonus disc is a live version of the Kansas/Proto-Kaw classic "Belexes", a radio version of "Words Of Honor", a non-album track "It Moves You" (which displays Livgren's Christian faith with it's spiritual overtones) and a 14-minute CD-ROM interview track with five of the Proto-Kaw band members (Kerry Livgren, Lynn Meredith, John Bolton, Dan Wright and Craig Kew). The interview offers an insightful look into how the reunion came about as well as reflections on the group's past and aftermath.
13 of 13 people found the following review helpful
There is Truth in the Unbelieveable 18 May 2004
By Alister W. Robertson - Published on Amazon.com
Format:Audio CD
Simply stunning, astounding, sensational, quite brilliant. Livgren is pure genius. One cannot grasp the enormity of the passion, intensity, emotion and so much more that one listen of this CD conveys. You will be playing this over and over again on first purchase to see if it really is as brilliant as it is!!! Then you will come back to it a few days later, because you cannot get enough of it.
The story of this CD and Band is so worth telling that it is somewhat unbelieveable - after 30 years these guys re-unite to make music that is so far out front, that it almost gets ahead of itself - if that is possible.

By that I mean that while the music has a certain 70's prog-rock feel about it and there is no mistaking Livgren's influence on the whole (if you are familiar with this man's genius), it is certainly music of the new Millenium - progressive to the core.

The Band's story (not just the Bio) is a story that should make the annals of Rock history - of that there is absolutely no doubt - whether you like the music or not. It is simply astounding.

Prog-rock should be filled with soaring melodies and instrumental intracacies, where the vocals should be harmonious and add an extra dimension to the music. This CD delivers on all fronts.

Prog-rock to retain it's own integrity must NOT remain in the years past masters such as Genesis, Pink Floyd, Rush, and many others - brilliant that they were and some still are.

However, the new breed of Prog-protaginists include Bands that have been around for some time now (and some newer ones), but are moving amongst this genre to be exactly what it is meant to be - progressive with the times. I place the likes of "Dream Theater" (sometimes), "Marillion", "Porcupine Tree" (brilliant), "Enchant", "Spocks Beard", "OSI", the new "Opeth" and a few others in this category.

This Proto-Kaw, along with their new CD is even ahead of that bunch or certainly up there with them. It was Livgren himself in one of his previous songs suggested that the "Future is borne out in our History". While he was referring to his deeply held Christian beliefs in that particular song, that statement applies to this CD.

A listen to "Words of Honour", "Axolotl" (just wrap yourself around this tune building to an absolute brilliant cresendo), "Heavenly Man" and "Theophany" - and you will see what I mean.

I trust the Band makes a few more gems. This CD is a sparkling diamond in a very monotonous, irksome and plastic music industry. We are awash in a sea of mediocrity these days. It is nice to find the opals (being Aussie) amongst the discoloured rocks.

Well done KL and the Band and that you have renewed your friendships from so long ago. Maintain the standards and we look forward to the next Proto-Kaw release.

12 of 12 people found the following review helpful
Blown away 16 Aug 2005
By Robert M. Harris - Published on Amazon.com
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Being a long-time Kansas fan I can honestly say that this one simply blows me away. Knowing a bit about the recording industry, how this group did not make it is of little surprise, but THAT they did not make it is a mixed set of emotions. These guys are amazing, but if they had made it, would the classic Kansas that we all know and love exist? Inversely, where would these guys had gone if they had been given the opportunity to continue? ..... which begs the question ..... will they continue? My vote is to write more songs (Kerry, get busy!) and get back into the studio. You guys are amazing and should be proud of this fantastic collection of extrememly high quality and well crafted music. If you are a fan of the early and classic Kansas, or simply a fan of progressive rock, or simply a fan of good music, I would highly recommend this CD.
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