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Baratza Preciso Coffee Grinder, 180 W

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  • Grinds for French Press to Espresso with precision micro-adjust system
  • Designed & Engineered: Seattle, WA, USA
  • Conical Burrs
  • Speed to Grind: 1.5 to 2.4 g/sec
  • Bean Hopper Capacity: 8 oz (227g)
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Brand Baratza
Model NumberPRECISO
ColourBlack
Item Weight3.6 Kg
Product Dimensions13.5 x 13 x 35 cm
Power / Wattage180 watts
Voltage230 volts
  
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ASINB003JFCRN6
Best Sellers Rank 65,355 in Kitchen & Home (See top 100)
Shipping Weight4 Kg
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Date First Available3 Sept. 2014
  
 

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The Preciso is a beautifully designed conical burr coffee grinder that works as hard as you do to create the perfect espresso experience. It doesn't stop there of course; the Preciso has also received high marks from coffee experts as an exceptional grinder for the increasingly popular manual brew methods. <pr> A precision grinder with a micro-adjust system that can be dialed in like a commercial grinder. This, coupled with a coffee throughput that is 1 gram/second faster than other 40mm conical burr grinders, makes the Preciso exceptional for espresso. <pr> Featuring Baratza's popular 40-grind adjustment options, the Preciso adds a second micro-adjustment level that further divides each of the 40 steps into 11 distinct settings. This means you have significantly more control over your espresso grind. <pr> The Preciso features the quality internal parts and external elements you've come to expect from Baratza. It also comes equipped with our innovative PortaHolder, allowing you to grind your espresso hands-free, directly into the portafilter for quick setup and cleanup. <pr> Speed to Grind: 1.5 to 2.4 g/sec.; Bean Hopper Capacity: 8 oz (227g); Grounds Bin Capacity: 5 oz. (142 g); Weight: 8 lbs. (3.6kg); Dimensions WxHxD cm: 12x35x16 cm; Power Rating (North America): 110 V AC 50/60 Hz. 1 Amp; Power Rating (Other): 230 V AC 50/60 Hz. .5 Amps; Safety Listing:UL/CSA/CE/EK; Designed & Engineered: Seattle, WA, USA.

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From the Manufacturer

Baratza Encore Conical Burr Grinder Baratza Virtuoso Conical Burr Grinder Baratza Preciso Conical Burr Grinder
Application All Purpose All Purpose All Purpose
Burr (M2 burrs produce a grind with less fines) 40 mm Burr Steel (M1) 40 mm Burr Steel (M1) 40 mm Burr Steel (M2)
Grind Range (Microns) 250 to 1200 200 to 1400 200 to 1400
Steps of Adjustment 40 40 40 macro x 11 micro = 440
Speed of Grind 0.8 to 1.1 g/sec 1.5 to 2.4 g/sec 1.5 to 2.4 g/sec
Standard Bean Hopper Capacity 8 oz (227 g) 8 oz (227 g) 8 oz (227 g)
Grounds Bin Capacity 5 oz (142 g) 5 oz (142 g) 5 oz (142 g)
Weight 7 lbs (3.1 kg) 8 lbs (3.6 kg) 8 lbs (3.6 kg)
Dimensions WxHxD 12 x 35 x 16 cm 12 x 35 x 16 cm 12 x 35 x 16 cm
Manual Brewing (Chemex, V60, Aeropress) / Espresso Good / Good Very Good / Very Good Very Good / Very Good with Dial In

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A great grinder for espresso lovers everywhere, with enough tuning options to experiment for hours. Capable of grinds fine enough to choke the most potent of Espresso machines, the Preciso is a grinding powerhouse. One small downside however is its evident buildup of static electricity on its plastic surfaces, which will quickly result in grounds flying upwards, seemingly against gravity, unless the included basket is used and sealed. Not a big deal unless you really hate cleaning, and a small price to pay for the perfect cup of coffee.
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This grinder is held up as being the be all and end all of grinders in its price range, but it is not so. It is not suitable for French press or filter, pour over or any other brewing method, as it produces a large amount of fines, which cause over extraction and bitterness. It is bimodal at most settings despite the advertising hype to the contrary. As I don't dabble in espresso, I won't comment on it's suitability for that.

In terms of reliability, mine broke pretty much as soon as I started using it, when a hard bean broke the top adjustment ring. It takes up to two weeks for Baratza to send a replacement part from America, and on average three days to respond to an email. The replacement part didn't work properly and had to be replaced again!

I've returned this item for a refund!

Overall I don't think this grinder is worth the money, although mine might have been a ' rogue' grinder. When things go wrong the manufacturer tries to rectify but their location makes this difficult.
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I bought this a year ago to go with my Fracino Espresso Machine, so I was looking for a consistent fine grind suitable for a traditional espresso machine. I was particularly interested in this machine because it allowed dispensing straight into the filter and it's claimed that there is very little ground coffee retained in the machine after each grind, so no stale coffee hanging around which is vital for a home machine used for only one or two coffees at a time.
The grind was OK although I was concerned that I had to set it very close to its finest grind to get a decent espresso, not what the manual indicates. But the portafilter holder is pathetic, stupid design, 20% of the coffee goes anywhere but into the filter making a mess and a waste. I resorted to holding the filter up against the coffee chute to ensure catching all the grains and, when making several coffees in succession, that just caused the grounds to back up into the chute and eventually clog the grinder completely, leading to burnt grounds caked horribly together before I realised what was going on. Then the plastic retaining ring on top of the grinding wheels broke (not surprising)
After a morning spent painstakingly cleaning the grinder of all its rock hard burnt grounds in inaccessible places (it doesn't dismantle completely) and obtaining a replacement plastic ring, I experimented with various ways of funnelling the coffee into the portafilter and eventually came up with a bodged up method involving part of a plastic cup and some Sugru.
So that worked fine but recently I cleaned the filter, tapped it to encourage some ground coffee to fall from the hopper area and it no longer works. It wasn't a big tap, just gently knocking the body of the grinder on the counter top once, but it seems to have dislodged an electrical connection.
So I've lost patience, the grind isn't really as fine as I need, the machine is unreliable and the dispensing system is pathetic.
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Excellent machine for the espresso fanatic
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86 of 94 people found the following review helpful
HASH(0x9a92af18) out of 5 stars Best grinder for pour-over, French press, or CafeSolo 18 July 2011
By barkingburro - Published on Amazon.com
The expert reviewers say this may be the best grinder for other than espresso anywhere near its price-point. I researched the heck out of grinders under $400 and chose this one. I am very pleased -- it has lived up to the hype. I prepare coffee using a medium-coarse (not exactly road gravel but significantly finer than French press) grind and an Eva Solo CafeSolo brewer. This grinder was a significant step up from my KitchenAid Pro Line and helped me extract a much better result (more flavor and less bitterness) than my previous efforts. Out of the box, the grinder appears to have a very high build quality. But I'll have more to say about build quality later in this review--over all, I rate it as having "good" build quality.

Caveat #1: I don't make espresso at home, so if you are considering this grinder for espresso, by all means look at other reviews. I can't help you except to repeat what the expert reviewers say (see caveat #2).

Caveat #2: If you haven't read the expert reviews from Coffee Geek, Home Barista, Coava, Prima, Intelligentsia, etc., you really should. You'll get a detailed perspective on what to expect from a decent grinder. And you'll be able to better judge the experience level and value systems of your fellow Amazon coffee drinking reviewers (from clueless to elitist).

Detailed review follows...

Consistency of grind: Excellent for non-espresso

My experience is limited to using just a few burr grinders of similar quality to the Kitchenaid. I can't tell you how this grinder compares to other more expensive grinders. The expert reviewers say it is better than grinders costing over $1,000. All I know is that the grounds it produces are more consistent than the Kitchenaid. Fewer large chunks, and overall more even sizing. As for minimizing fine sediment, here is where this grinder really shines. I was able to produce an amazing cup of coffee with less bitter fine powder than I ever have before. The brew also tasted more flavorful, both because the fines weren't there to mask some of the flavor and also because I could grind a bit finer than I had before (which allowed me to cut back on my brew time and maintain a higher temperature throughout the process). This is Baratza's major selling point for this grinder, because unlike any other model in their line, this grinder has burrs that are optimized for coarser grinds. The burrs feature special cutting edges and a refined angle of attack that not only causes beans to get sliced with less crushing, but causes the throughput to be noticeably faster even though no changes have been made to the motor speed.

Minimizing static: Good (but remember caveat #1--you'll get more static when grinding finer)

I used to prepare coffee using a grinder valued at half the price of this one. I bought the KitchenAid Pro Line burr grinder for its build quality and excellent control of static (all my friends have <$100 grinders that puff clouds of fine grounds everywhere when they open the bin). Others report that the Preciso controls static well MOST of the time. I'm happy with it as well. But here is where you'll find the static problem cropping up: grinding for 30 seconds or more, and with grounds piling-up in the bin, you'll see grounds start to get attracted to the metal front plate. Touching the plate at that point, I got a static shock! Then I read that doing shorter grind runs repeatedly controls that. So now I don't let the grinds pile up to within a couple inches of the top. Problem solved and I've had very good results ever since. Also, I've noticed the plastic catcher bin is very static-free. Baratza supposedly uses a special plastic--not a spray-on coating--that is inherently anti-static, and has paid special attention to minimizing static buildup after listening to customer feedback. Still, there's clearly room for improvement. I think it could be a problem when grinding into a portafilter.

Grounds retention: Excellent

*** Addendum March 2013 *** I now always tilt the grinder forward and pat it on the back to make sure all trapped beans are processed, and to dislodge any grounds in the chute. The Preciso consistently retains only about 0.1 to 0.2 gram of material. Most of the stuck grounds will be released right after grinding. The next day, a few pats before grinding typically releases a bit more.

It is important to qualify how these grounds are retained. Some grinders have nooks that can store old grounds way past their freshness date, releasing the occasional rancid particles into your otherwise pristine grounds. The Preciso does not appear to have such a problem. The path from the hopper to the burrs is short and violent, with a small finger guard keeping you a fraction of an inch from the spinning mass. Once inside the burrs, the exit point is on the outside circumference of the grinding chamber and the exit chute is a short and steep drop into the bin. I saw reviewer after reviewer comment that the burrs looked much cleaner than they expected after a lot of use. I saw Gail from Seattle Coffee Gear open-up several Baratza grinders and find the burrs to be cleaner than she expected.

Motor noise: Very good

It's not too loud--about the same as my KitchenAid.

Grounds heating up: Not noticeable

Other reviewers reported grounds feeling warm when they grind very fine. I haven't had any issues at the levels I grind--but I don't run the motor for a full minute, either (the grounds bin isn't large enough to contain that much grounds!).

Adjustability of coarseness: Very good

The Preciso is special partly because it does such a good job of allowing repeatable fine adjustments. But I noticed that in order to get the coarseness I needed, I had to set it one click before the maximum position. So someone looking to grind even coarser for press pot would maybe need to consult with Baratza on how to adjust the calibration. Others have not reported this problem. Maybe I tend to grind coarser than I realize?

Maintainability: Excellent

I bought this grinder partly because it is so well-designed from a human factors standpoint. The bean hopper and top burr are easy to remove without tools and easy to brush clean. The instructions book is very clear. I almost bought a Rancilio Rocky grinder and cancelled at the last minute when I saw the nightmare that went into maintaining that horrible design. Even my KitchenAid was not fun to clean (place on back, untwist front screws, watch gooey black oil spilling back into grinder housing and onto kitchen counter). I haven't yet tried a repeatability test to see if the calibration is affected when you remove and replace the top burr for cleaning, but I can't imagine how it could possibly change given the design. All parts fit very precisely into their original positions with no slop and no way to alter the position without deliberately changing the grind setting. On this point, I'll mention that one or two reviewers had commented on looseness or travelling settings due to vibration. They followed-up by saying Baratza responded and made sure later manufactured units did not have that problem. The same issue and resolution was reported for the Vario. I can attest to the firmness of the adjustment clicks and the fine tuning lever--I do not believe my grinder will ever change settings due to vibration.

*** Addendum Feb 2012 *** I just finished cleaning my grinder and can attest to how easy it is. Baratza supplies a very small stiff bottle brush, but you'll want to buy a pastry brush to sweep the dust off the burrs and to break up the compacted dust lodged inside the bottom of the burr housing. Even so, it will be necessary to hold the grinder upside down and tap it to dislodge the grinds that get stuck at the bottom. I did find that I started seeing some old shavings coming out the chute with increasing frequency, but after one cleaning, I think they won't make an appearance for another month. Overall, it was quick and easy to get all the parts clean and to reassemble the burrs.

Build quality and predicted reliability: Good

*** Addendum April 2015 *** I had bought the first version of this grinder, which had numerous design issues. When I noticed the grind losing consistency, I called Baratza within warranty and their response was stellar. I received a fully updated grinder with new gearbox, among other improvements. It's been approx. three years since receiving the rebuilt grinder and I have been happy with its performance ever since.

Others have reported excellent out-of-the-box build quality, but long-term use may be problematic if you don't want to occasionally replace plastic parts that wear out. You should know that a professional quality grinder will tend to have less plastic around the burrs. The Rancilio Rocky is reportedly all-metal (but unlike the Rocky, there's no slop in the Preciso). And if you bought the Baratza Vario, you would find less plastic than the Preciso and more metal construction where it counts (a good short list of best espresso grinders in their price range would have the Preciso under the Vario, with a refurbished Mazzer Super Jolly being the next step up from the Vario). Baratza states that they used fiberglass/plastic seating elements around the burrs in the Preciso because it's a cheap part and will be the first thing to break if you accidentally start grinding a rock. One reviewer reported that the company was very good at replacing this part when that exact thing happened--and they did it for free (they mailed the part and it was easy for the user to install). The motor is very robust, but again, you will see even stronger motors in more expensive units (including the Vario). As for my own assessment of long-term reliability, I am happy so far, but reserve judgement until I've used this grinder for at least another year or so.

Customer support: Excellent

*** Addendum March 2013 *** See my comment, above, regarding the warranty replacement. As I've said, Baratza has been stellar in their customer support.

Reviewers say this manufacturer is the best in the industry when it comes to helping their customers, providing fixes, improving their product rapidly based on feedback, and just basically caring about the user experience.
13 of 13 people found the following review helpful
HASH(0x9aca7cd8) out of 5 stars Fantastic machine, but requires occasional maintenance 29 Mar. 2015
By Jim W - Published on Amazon.com
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I've had this machine for about 6-7 months, during which time it has broken once.

Pros:
1) This machine is amazingly precise and consistent with an enormous range of grain sizes. So far as I am aware, nothing in this price range comes close. Compared to the 100 dollar grinder I had previously, this is 100x better. Shot after shot of espresso comes out perfectly, and you can make microscopic adjustments to fine tune the time it takes to pull each shot. Due to the control it gives you over grain size and the way it dispenses consistently, you get correspondingly greater control over flavor.
2) Baratza customer service is amazing. They respond same day, are very helpful and honest and will not make a fuss about sending out replacement parts when the machine breaks.
3) The machine is quite easy to repair when it breaks. The first time, it took 10-15 minutes to disassemble and maybe 5-10 minutes to reassemble when the new part arrived.

Cons:
1) The machine will eventually break. This is guaranteed. Those ultra-precise controls over grain size are made possible by tiny pieces of plastic that are fitted together very tightly. If you get an unusually hard bean or rock or you adjust the machine while it isn't grinding (or you just get unlucky while it is grinding) you can easily break off one of 6 tiny tabs that control the course/fine internal adjustment mechanisms. You'll know this has happened when your espresso grind suddenly goes from fine dust to wood chips. The website has videos that walk you through taking apart your machine and finding which exact part has broken and then they will send you a replacement part that will arrive 1-2 days later. If this is annoying, you can send it in for warranty repair, which is slightly more of a hassle. I did the repairs myself when a tab broke off and it took about 10 minutes of careful work once the part arrived.
22 of 25 people found the following review helpful
HASH(0x9ab4a27c) out of 5 stars Very unreliable, get something else. 7 Sept. 2014
By Arthur Parmakian - Published on Amazon.com
Not a good product because it breaks. Shortly after I bought it the handle on the timer started to fall of. Later the grinder stopped spinning. The motor would work, but the grinder part would slip and not able to grind. I had it replaced by the store. The replacement piece did exact same thing. I was ok with the timer handle fall off all the time. But the grinder again broke after less than two years of use. Also, the fines coursenss setting overtime became not as fine as at the beginning. I am an expresso drinker and like the grind very fine. With time, the finest setting started to produce more course grind. All in all, don't waist your money and time you would need to deal with all that. Get a different product.
26 of 34 people found the following review helpful
HASH(0x9ad12b70) out of 5 stars It's an illusion! They're fooling you! 7 Sept. 2014
By M. Dutton - Published on Amazon.com
Should have bought the Rocky. Unit broke before the two year mark. Ordered the replacement parts from manufacturer and spent a couple of hours monkeying with it. It grinds but no longer an espresso fine grind. When you take the unit apart it's obvious that it wasn't built to last. Plastic housing broke in two places, bottom of the conical burr chipped, and metal gear shavings filled the gear box housing with two teeth missing. All from less than two years of use on the same grind setting (for pour over). Feels like a quality product because of the heavy base and top, but it's an illusion. Underneath it's just another product that's overpriced and not built to last. Disappointing.
19 of 25 people found the following review helpful
HASH(0x9a7fba80) out of 5 stars Consistent, lots of range, low fines, and very little static 13 April 2012
By Irrevocable Trust - Published on Amazon.com
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I have been looking for a grinder for a while. I spent months hoping to find a deal on a Mazzer Mini, or something else of that quality, hoped to find a deal. I have used a few commercial grade grinders, either borrowing or at friend's houses. I finally became fed up with the search for a deal, and decided to do some new research. After reading a number of reviews I decided to try this grinder. By the way, check out the CoffeeGeek.com "First Impressions Review" - there's great info there.

After using the grinder heavily for a month now, here's my thoughts:

1) This Grinder is very consistent. The particle size is consistent for each setting. I used to work in the screen printing industry, so I have a microscope at home, and I reviewed the ground coffee at a number of different settings. The results are remarkable. As good as my friend's commercial grinder and another Mazzer. If you want to grind for French Press, you will get a consistent large ground size. The same was true for espresso, chemex, and every grind size I tried.

2)The grinder does not produce a lot of "fines". No dusty residue coffee in the container to block up your filters, or change the flavor of your immersion. Once again, on par with commercial high end grinders.

3) It does not require that the container be in the grinder to turn on. If you want to dispense straight into a small bowl, or you portafilter, you can. To many home grinders switch off when the basket/container is removed for safety. This is very annoying and inconvenient.

4) The portafilter holder that comes with the grinder is lacking. It holds the filter too high, and is finicky to get the filter into securely. This was something I found lacking, but not enough to lower the rating.

5) I wish there was a better way to store extra cord. This would make a more cleaner looking counter. The cord is long, and this is good, but without a way to store extra inside of the unit it is messy looking.

6) Static. Almost none. Shockingly so. The grounds will have a very small amount stuck to the container they fall into. But, a gentle tap dislodges them. And they do not go flying around sticking to everything. They just fall into wherever you want them to be. This is one of the joys of the machine. No more counters covered in grounds that went flying when the container is moved. My kitchen counter coffee station is much cleaner. MUCH cleaner. The quality of the grind and this lack of static make this grinder worth the money. Trust me, you will be happier once you realize just how much coffee does not need to be cleaner up every morning.

7) It is fairly quiet. Well, as quiet as a device that chews up hard woody seeds can be.

8) The burrs are just pretty. I know that's not a "technical" point. But, honestly, they are.

9) The variability of the grinder is incredible. you really can go from a turkish/near turkish grind all the way to a "I'm just going to dump the grounds into hot water an let it settle before I pour" size. If you want a professional quality grinder that will do all types of coffee/espresso - this will do it. With the micro controls you can dial in your grind and fiddle with the settings to get just what you need. I've burned through a lot of coffee to adjust to the perfect espresso grind for a particular blend. And, this grinder really let me customize.

10) I don't like the "timer" knob. It is positioned in a place that's hard to see, so it is difficult to use. And it is difficult to set to the same period each use. It doesn't really matter much, I use the instant on button on the front and just hold it. Easy enough because...

11) ...it is fast. It is a fairly fast grinder. Not coffee shop fast, but close enough for heavy home user. I haven't noticed any heating of the grounds caused by speed. Or the machine getting hot. Though a few people in forums have commented that they saw a little heating happening. I've done pretty large grinds. Filled up the container 4/5 of the way, and had no issues.

12) This thing is heavy. No slipping or sliding.

13) Finally, the grind chute is very short. Very little wasted beans. Almost every gram of ground beans ends up in your brew. And to clear it require a quick press of the button. With coffee prices high, it's great to no longer waste coffee because the chute is long and full of grounds.

All in all, I strongly recommend this grinder. It's on the same level as any professional or commercial grinder I've touched. There is finally a grinder for a serious coffee enthusiast that is affordable. In fact, I'd buy this over a Mazzer.
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