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Bags & Trane [CASSETTE] [Import]

John Coltrane, Milt Jackson, Milt Jackson & John Coltrane Audio Cassette
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  • Audio Cassette (17 Oct 1990)
  • Format: Import
  • Label: Atlantic / Wea
  • ASIN: B000002I58
  • Other Editions: Audio CD  |  Vinyl  |  MP3 Download
  • Average Customer Review: 4.3 out of 5 stars  See all reviews (3 customer reviews)

1. Stairway to the Stars [*]
2. Late Late Blues
3. Bags & Trane
4. Three Little Words
5. Night We Called It a Day
6. Bebop
7. Blues Legacy [*]
8. Centerpiece

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7 of 7 people found the following review helpful
5.0 out of 5 stars Classy Jazz from two masters 21 Dec 2007
By S J Buck TOP 500 REVIEWER
Format:Audio CD
An unusual album from Milt Jackson and John Coltrane who you wouldn't expect to be playing with each other. Recorded in 1959 this was made just before 'Giant Steps', but its completely different from that classic album.

With Jackson alongside Coltrane the whole album takes a much more bluesy turn especially when Jackson is playing, and indeed there a couple of blues tracks on the album. So when you hear Jackson on these tracks its the same Jackson who played with the MJQ and made a number of great albums with Oscar Peterson. However, Coltrane was pushing the boundaries at this stage, so the contrast between his solo on say 'The Late Late Blues' and Jackson's is quite dramatic.

The supporting cast is, as you would expect top notch. On drums is Connie Kay, Bass is Paul Chambers and Piano is Hank Jones.

My favourite track is 'Be-Bop', a Dizzy Gillespie tune taken at a frightningly fast tempo, on which Jackson swings through his solo with amazing panache and Coltrane (obviously in practise for things to come) just blasts through the chord sequence like it was a 12 bar (which its not).

A great album that improves everytime you listen to it.
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5 of 5 people found the following review helpful
4.0 out of 5 stars Milt Jackson - Bags and Trane 3 July 2011
Format:Audio CD
When this record first came out it didn't get very good reviews. It was thought to be fairly sub-standard Coltrane, playing without his usual force, and with a rhythm section that didn't give him adequate support. In fact, it is a very good record indeed. The problem may have been that it was recorded just before 'Giant Steps' but not released until some time later, by which time a sea change had taken place in Coltrane's style and he just wasn't playing this way any more. He made much fine music before that change and this disc fits well into that body of work.
Trane plays throughout with an easy loping swing. He was always a superb ballad player and excels on 'Stairway To The Stars' and 'The Night We Called It A Day'. He unleashes his formidable technique on the fast 'Be-Bop' and plays convincingly in a bluesy manner on the remaining tunes, not all of which are blues.
The blues feel to the disc comes mainly from Milt Jackson, who was always a master of that style. He plays well throughout and there is little point in singling out individual tracks. Hank Jones is his usual impeccable self and Paul Chambers a tower of rhythmic strength on bass. Connie Kay suffered some flack when this was first issued but plays well, lightly swinging and punctuating rarely but always to the point.
There are better Trane records around, such as 'Blue Trane', but this is a pleasing example of his work pre 'Giant Steps' and the other four musicians can hardly be bettered, individually or together.
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1 of 1 people found the following review helpful
4.0 out of 5 stars Not in English ! ! 29 Jan 2014
Format:Audio CD|Verified Purchase
I already have this CD in the Atlantic re-release. The CD didn't play very well on my laptop so I decided to purchase this one. It arrived on time promptly - very good ! However, the information on the cover insert and the outer cover was all in CHINESE !!
Fortunately the Atlantic CD insert has all the information in English. So lucky me .... However, the music content, in my opinion, is quality. Having seen both of these artists live, many moons ago it's good to have these guys on CD. Well worth a buy even if you don't speak Chinese !!!!
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31 of 31 people found the following review helpful
5.0 out of 5 stars Old lion meets young lion with rip-roarin' results 27 May 2000
By Tyler Smith - Published on Amazon.com
Format:Audio CD
This 1960 release does both Coltrane and vibist Jackson proud. Coltrane was considered at the time a "New Wave" proponent with his then-shocking "sheets of sound" vertical attack, while Jackson was a bebop mainstay. On "Bags and Trane" they sound utterly at ease with one another and produce some beautiful jazz.
At the core of the album is the obvious respect that the two musicians had for one another. Coltrane attacks more aggressively, but his hard-edged sound proves a perfect foil for Jackson's mellow, ringing vibes. On "The Night We Called It a Day," you can hear how carefully they listened to each other, one solo blending into the other without costing the tune a beat.
Pianist Hank Jones, Jackson's Modern Jazz Quartet bandmate drummer Connie Kay and longtime Trane collaborator bassist Paul Chambers solidify the album. Jones, in particular, plays a wonderfully understated piano, relying largely on space and single notes to deepen the contrast with Trane's dense attack.
The CD adds tunes originally found on the vinyl release "The Coltrane Legacy," and the new material is a plus. The ballad "Stairway to the Stars" offers a particularly poignant turn by Coltrane, who isn't afraid to show his emotion, and "Centerpiece" is a great mellow blues.
This album will be rewarding to fans of Coltrane and Jackson alike. Best of all, if you're a fan of both (like me), you'll get a double dose from two great jazz musicians who showed how much they respected one another by listening to every musical word the other had to say.
21 of 21 people found the following review helpful
5.0 out of 5 stars Just 3 little words... THIS IS GREAT! 22 Dec 2000
By Pharoah S. Wail - Published on Amazon.com
Format:Audio CD
With all the press and discussion that surrounds the album immediately following this one, GIANT STEPS, this cd is all too often overlooked. Big mistake! This is one of my favorite cd's from Coltrane's time with the Atlantic label. I noticed in the previous reviews that a few people referred to Coltrane's sound and style as "harsh" or "attacking". That caught me off guard, I've never considered him to sound harsh on this at all. I could understand people thinking that way about some of his late-period playing but on this cd his playing flows like liquid silk. So many people think of Coltrane only as a harmonic genius but listening to this cd it is impossible to deny his total brilliance and mastery of rhythm. Quite simply, no one felt the pulse of a tune the way Coltrane did. This is not the scouring, searching, peeling away the layers of self to find redemption Coltrane of later years (a Coltrane which I myself love, but some people hate), this is Coltrane in a straight-ahead format, turning phrases inside out and back around into themselves, and doing it with incredible tenor tone. I love the sonic quality of this recording, Coltranes tone is just beyond words on this cd.

For sheer beauty and swinging mastery of melodic improvisation it almost doesn't get any better than what Coltrane does here on tunes like Be-Bop, Bags & Trane, Stairway To The Stars, etc...

And no, I am not forgetting about the rest of the band. Paul Chambers is brilliant on this cd. Milt also shows what he was made of on this cd, and he was made of some very fine stuff. What someone thinks of this cd overall may well depend on what they think of the vibraphone. If you don't like vibraphone then you may wish Milt Jackson wasn't on this, but if you do like it then this really is a classic recording. And quite honestly, if you're just a Coltrane fan this cd is still completely worth it even if you hate the vibraphone. I think this cd has, without a doubt, some of Coltrane's most incredible playing of the 1950's.
15 of 16 people found the following review helpful
5.0 out of 5 stars Purls like a river, erupts like a volcano 10 April 2002
By Douglas LaRose - Published on Amazon.com
Format:Audio CD
This is a very nice disc. Milt Jackson on Vibraphone calls for some funky type of riffs that seem to crescendo once or twice per solo. What is nice is that usually it will be Coltrane and Jackson back to back, leaving each other a lot of room to do individual solos, and then they will come in together very triumphantly. "Stairway to the Stars," the first track in the disc (but not on the originally LP release) is a very nice, mellow track which is perfect for a nice dinner.
I do recommend, however, that rather than buying this album you purchase "The Heavyweight Champion: John Coltrane, The Complete Atlantic Recordings." This 7-CD set may be a little pricy but you get all 10 of Coltranes Atlantic recordings plus a disc of all of the outtakes. The Bags & Trane sessions are particularly emphasized on the box set, so you get much more than you would just buying "Bags and Trane."
Enjoy
8 of 8 people found the following review helpful
5.0 out of 5 stars Better than snake oil. 6 Nov 2002
By George H. Soule - Published on Amazon.com
Format:Audio CD
Milt Jackson and John Coltrane complement one another marvelously in this collection of quintet recordings from 1959. The rhythm trio features Hank Jones on piano, assisted by Paul Chambers on bass and Connie Kay on drums. Jackson is here in familiar territory with a group that isn't far from MJQ. The differences are Coltrane and the interplay. The disc commences with a bonus track, the standard "Stairway to the Stars." Here is Coltrane in his best ballad form, excercising restraint and what is as close to lyrical as he gets. Milt Jackson spins his filligrees, nets of sound, as usual, and Coltrane answers seemingly from a distance, with clarity. The next track is Bags' "The Late Late Blues," a simple theme that Coltrane explores in his legendary sheets of sound. His clarity is such that you can hear the patterns evolve within the sheet. Paul Chambers' bass is prominent both in its steady line and in solo. "Bags & Trane" begins with a simple call and response. Bags' intricate solo is followed by Trane's brief statement, again exemplary of his improvisational skill. Hank Jones piano solo proceeds Paul Chambers' arco solo followed by traded breaks by Bags and Trane. "Three Little Words" is a mid-tempo tune that cooks. It begins with Bags' statement of the theme and then Trane establishes the groundwork for his solo and goes to the invention--arabesque variations built on the theme. Trane's solo here is exemplary--worth studying for insights into his method. Jackson's extended solo illustrates his inventiveness and Hank Jones continues into traded fours between Trane, Connie Kay, and Bags. Which leads one to extoll Connie Kay's gifts. Here is a consumate professional at work. He is delicate and tasteful when necessary, but he swings explosively as well. "The Night We Called It a Day" is a quiet ballad, but Jackson's lyrical solo and Coltrane's lengthy invention are masterful. Again, Trane's solo is an object lesson in his method. But these guys can blow the roof off. That's apparent in Dizzy Gillespie's "Be-Bop" where Bags starts off at breakneck speed and Coltrane blows hard and quick--probably the only tenor player aside from Johnny Griffin who blows as hard and fast as Bird with coherence. This is sheets of sound--a style that can become "cerebral" that euphimism for boring when you want your jazz visceral. The Jones solo arrives apace with Chambers and Kay cooking in the background down to Bags and Trane trading breaks. Cerebral doesn't happen here. A hard bop classic. The remaining tracks, "Blues Legacy" and "Centerpiece" follow suit. The first is a simple call and response blues riff with some gigantic solos. The last is an old favorite of mine, but despite Bags' wonderful solo it doesn't have Annie Ross, alas. Nevertheless, this is a very good CD. Highly recommended, too.
5 of 5 people found the following review helpful
5.0 out of 5 stars Not nSynch (thank goodness) 21 May 2004
By Samuel Chell - Published on Amazon.com
Format:Audio CD
I passed on the original LP, but this reissue with twenty additional minutes of music by, on the one hand, the quintessential jazz blues player and, on the other, the most influential jazz innovator of the past half century, led me to reconsider my decision of 40 years ago (I was poorer then, too).
Listening to the album again, I'm finding that the source of my reservations at the time are now a source of pleasure. Not only are the primary players conscious of their different musical styles, but each brings a "second" for support: Coltrane has Paul Chambers, his colleague from the Miles Davis Group, and Jackson has Connie Kay, his associate from the the Modern Jazz Quartet. The result is a rhythm section that is never quite in synch. Paul lays down as powerful, unflappable a bass line as I've ever heard from him while Connie Kay reminds me of a trailer or dinghy faithfully in tow. Coltrane leans forward on the time, keeping up with his man, while Bags waits on the beat, as though listening to his own accomplice.
Is there a "winner"? The advantage is definitely Coltrane-Chambers. On the other hand, Hank Jones is so effective in bridging the gap, playing in the "middle" of the beat, that the whole thing works. In fact, the undeniable tension in the rhythm along with the players figuring out ways to deal with it create a whole new layer of musical interest.
I'm really inclined to four and a half stars, but the principals, not to mention the performance of the roadbuilder, Paul Chambers, forbid it.
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