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  • Original Release Date: 2 Oct 2009
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  • Original Release Date: 2 Oct 2009
  • Label: deutsche harmonia mundi
  • Copyright: (P) 2009 Sony Music Entertainment Germany GmbH
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  • Total Length: 1:15:43
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  • ASIN: B0037C26V4
  • Average Customer Review: 4.0 out of 5 stars  See all reviews (1 customer review)
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13 of 14 people found the following review helpful
Format:Audio CD
I have to admitt that I bought this CD mostly for the «Missa a tre chori» by Antonio Lotti, but it is always with excitement I listen to Zelenka's brilliant Miserere and JS Bach's masterly Cantata BWV 12, especially when it is in a version (Leipzig-version in G minor) I've never heard before.

The jagging chords of Jan Dismas Zelenka's Miserere in C minor may come as a surprise if one is not familiar with Zelenka's music. The music is in every way out of the order to any century of church music... In this recording we have one of the most energetic openings of the Miserere on disc.

That said, I feel it gives too much away right from the outset, and a more subtle build-up for this 16- minute long motet would be a wiser approach. Another weakness is the crux of the motet i.e. the third movement with a soprano solo singing the Gloria.The soprano need to be rather «Eindringend» to top the chock-opening in the first movement, sadly both the soprano and Thomas Hengelbrock seems to come a little short.

The second movement (Miserere II) is also a let-down. Here the orchestra (strings, oboes and a powerfull organ) and 4-part chorus are pitted against eachother. The striking palpitating bass-theme of the opening movement (Miserere I)is repeated in the orchestra while the choir sings the text of Psalm 50 (51) with a repeated cantus firmus (Miserere mei Deus)rather energetic but with a lack of variation of timbres and phrasing. The result is rather monotonus, and seems to miss the sense of mystery and agony, which a good interpretation should have.

JS Bach' s early Weimar-cantata «Weinen, Klagen, Sorgen, Zagen» have one of the most beautiful opening sinfonias I know, with an oboe-solo which is almost to die for. This recording of Bach's Leipzig-version, is to my knowledge the only one on disc. The first vocal movement is a motet-style chorus divided in two sections, with a da capo. It is vital that these two sections are contrasted in tempo, expression and rythm to get a forward momentum that an opening movement should have (Both Joshua Rifkin (Dorian) and Gustav Leonhardt (Teldec) understands this). Sadly Thomas Hengelbrock do not contrast the first and second («Die das Zeichen Jesu tragen») sections and the whole first movement seems to be just one long lamento, not going anywhere.

The two ensuing movements are a let-down. It is an alto recitative and an aria sung by Marion Eckstein. There is a problem here that points to a «typical» problem of the Balthasar-Neumann-Ensemble, letting the singers in the chorus tackle Bach's enormously taxing soli and not handing over the «job» to a more experienced outsider. None of the singers (A, T, B) are sadly up to the task, and my guess is that a singer like Bernard Landauer or Beat Dudeck (which is two very interesting singers, and also members of the choir) would have tackled these two movements better, if one was to insist that singers of the «Ensemble» should sing these parts. The problems with the alto recitative and aria are both technical and textual, and there seems to be little understanding of Salomo Franck's highly charged text, full of religious implications that a Lutheran surely would understand right away - Max van Egmond's wonderfuly subtle rendering of «Ich küsse Christi Schmach» for Leonhardt must surely be ideal for «Ich folge Christum nach». The use of the tromba da tirarsi (Zugtrompete) in the tenor-aria «Sei getreu, alle Pein» is very accomplished, but I find the tenor (Julian Podger) rather cold on the text, and I miss a more emotional response to it.

To say that Antonio Lotti is an underrated composer may seem like a rather cliché-statement, but in fact it is such a grave error not to mention Lotti in the course of development of church music, that it would be the same as not to mention Joseph Haydn or Ludwig van Beethoven in the genesis of the symphony. In this respect Thomas Hengelbrock's series of recordings of Lotti's music is extremely important, just to set matters straight. Luckily there is more to it than that, and Lotti's Missa a tre cori should be anyone's real reason to buy this CD. Having said that and in light of the over-the-top Zelenka Miserere and the rather anemic Bach, these two works cannot quite escape the impression of beeing fillers to the main work of art here. The magnificent Missa of Lotti, on which the inadequat booklet tells us virtually nothing, is beyond doubt one of the most impressive «Missae breves» composed at the start of the 18th century. There are one very interesting case with the «et in terra pax», which seems to invoce Handel's «De torrente in via bibet» from the Dixit Dominus (I'd really like to hear others opinion on that!), the case is that Handel's motet is from around 1708 and written for Rome and Lotti's Missa is undated, but at any rate before 1719, and written for Venice - could Handel's be the earliest one??? - There are so many great things to hold up for the Missa a tre cori that it would be beyond the scope of this review to comment any further on it, just let it be said that this is a highly enjoyable and important recording, even if it just concerns the Missa a tre cori.
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4.0 out of 5 stars Fantastic Missa a tre cori by Antonio Lotti - not to be missed! 14 July 2010
By Morten Fuglestad - Published on Amazon.com
Format:Audio CD
I have to admitt that I bought this CD mostly for the «Missa a tre chori» by Antonio Lotti, but it is always with excitement I listen to Zelenka's brilliant Miserere and JS Bach's masterly Cantata BWV 12, especially when it is in a version (Leipzig-version in G minor) I've never heard before.

The jagging chords of Jan Dismas Zelenka's Miserere in C minor may come as a surprise if one is not familiar with Zelenka's music. The music is in every way out of the order to any century of church music... In this recording we have one of the most energetic openings of the Miserere on disc.

That said, I feel it gives too much away right from the outset, and a more subtle build-up for this 16- minute long motet would be a wiser approach. Another weakness is the crux of the motet i.e. the third movement with a soprano solo singing the Gloria.The soprano need to be rather «Eindringend» to top the chock-opening in the first movement, sadly both the soprano and Thomas Hengelbrock seems to come a little short.

The second movement (Miserere II) is also a let-down. Here the orchestra (strings, oboes and a powerfull organ) and 4-part chorus are pitted against eachother. The striking palpitating bass-theme of the opening movement (Miserere I)is repeated in the orchestra while the choir sings the text of Psalm 50 (51) with a repeated cantus firmus (Miserere mei Deus)rather energetic but with a lack of variation of timbres and phrasing. The result is rather monotonus, and seems to miss the sense of mystery and agony, which a good interpretation should have.

JS Bach' s early Weimar-cantata «Weinen, Klagen, Sorgen, Zagen» have one of the most beautiful opening sinfonias I know, with an oboe-solo which is almost to die for. This recording of Bach's Leipzig-version, is to my knowledge the only one on disc. The first vocal movement is a motet-style chorus divided in two sections, with a da capo. It is vital that these two sections are contrasted in tempo, expression and rythm to get a forward momentum that an opening movement should have (Both Joshua Rifkin (Dorian) and Gustav Leonhardt (Teldec) understands this). Sadly Thomas Hengelbrock do not contrast the first and second («Die das Zeichen Jesu tragen») sections and the whole first movement seems to be just one long lamento, not going anywhere.

The two ensuing movements are a let-down. It is an alto recitative and an aria sung by Marion Eckstein. There is a problem here that points to a «typical» problem of the Balthasar-Neumann-Ensemble, letting the singers in the chorus tackle Bach's enormously taxing soli and not handing over the «job» to a more experienced outsider. None of the singers (A, T, B) are sadly up to the task, and my guess is that a singer like Bernard Landauer or Beat Dudeck (which is two very interesting singers, and also members of the choir) would have tackled these two movements better, if one was to insist that singers of the «Ensemble» should sing these parts. The problems with the alto recitative and aria are both technical and textual, and there seems to be little understanding of Salomo Franck's highly charged text, full of religious implications that a Lutheran surely would understand right away - Max van Egmond's wonderfuly subtle rendering of «Ich küsse Christi Schmach» for Leonhardt must surely be ideal for «Ich folge Christum nach». The use of the tromba da tirarsi (Zugtrompete) in the tenor-aria «Sei getreu, alle Pein» is very accomplished, but I find the tenor (Julian Podger) rather cold on the text, and I miss a more emotional response to it.

To say that Antonio Lotti is an underrated composer may seem like a rather cliché-statement, but in fact it is such a grave error not to mention Lotti in the course of development of church music, that it would be the same as not to mention Joseph Haydn or Ludwig van Beethoven in the genesis of the symphony. In this respect Thomas Hengelbrock's series of recordings of Lotti's music is extremely important, just to set matters straight. Luckily there is more to it than that, and Lotti's Missa a tre cori should be anyone's real reason to buy this CD. Having said that and in light of the over-the-top Zelenka Miserere and the rather anemic Bach, these two works cannot quite escape the impression of beeing fillers to the main work of art here. The magnificent Missa of Lotti, on which the inadequat booklet tells us virtually nothing, is beyond doubt one of the most impressive «Missae breves» composed at the start of the 18th century. There are one very interesting case with the «et in terra pax», which seems to invoce Handel's «De torrente in via bibet» from the Dixit Dominus (I'd really like to hear others opinion on that!), the case is that Handel's motet is from around 1708 and written for Rome and Lotti's Missa is undated, but at any rate before 1719, and written for Venice - could Handel's be the earliest one??? - There are so many great things to hold up for the Missa a tre cori that it would be beyond the scope of this review to comment any further on it, just let it be said that this is a highly enjoyable and important recording, even if it just concerns the Missa a tre cori.
6 of 6 people found the following review helpful
5.0 out of 5 stars Here's a Trinity I Can Believe In! 21 Dec 2010
By Giordano Bruno - Published on Amazon.com
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Lotti, Zelenka, Bach! Three of the most expressive composers of 'sacred' music of the Baroque or any other era, all born in the same generation (1667-79-85) and all dead in the same decade (1740-45-50), and all demonstrably aware of each other's musical genius. Each spent most of his career in a single city -Lotti in his native Venice, Zelenka in Dresden, Bach in Leipzig - though Bach and Zelenka apparently communicated though they probably never met, while Lotti spent two years in Dresden, possibly met Zelenka face to face, and certainly left musical manuscripts there which Zelenka studied and used in performances. Yet each was so original and musically distinctive that one could hardly mistake one for the other.

Zelenka's 'Miserere in C minor' was the setting of the penitential psalm 50 (Vulgate) for Easter week of 1738; the whole text of the psalm is expressed in the second movement, an unusual structure, while the first and sixth movements are plangently dissonant cries for Mercy, equally emotive for instruments and chorus, with the third-fourth-fifth movements inserting the text of the Gloria Patri. Even by Zelenka's standards, this is a composition of extreme drama and spiritual anguish.

Bach's early cantata "Weeping, Wailing, Grieving, Fearing" is quite plangently a penitential lament also, but one which ends with a confident submission to God's care, declaring that "what God does is well done."
It must have satisfied the composer; Bach re-used it in services at Leipzig and expanded the opening chorus of it into the 'Crucifixus' of his B minor Mass. You'll hear a special instrumental timbre in the aria 'Sei getrost' - a slide trumpet plays the decorated cantus firmus 'Jesu meine Freude' over the singer. there's evidence that such an instrument was still in use among the Leipziger Stadtpfeifern in Bach's time.

Lotti's Mass for Three Choruses - with instruments integrated into each chorus - is one of the most expansive examples of his particular style of blending the most rigorous 'classical' chromatic counterpoint with freer and more gallant moments of operatic expressiveness. Lotti was in fact a composer of operas; he staged at least five of them in his two years in Dresden. This large hunk of music is the essential portion of the CD; there are other quite fine recordings of the Bach and Zelenka works, but there's effectively nothing available of Lotti's at such a high standard of performance.

And how high is that standard? Well, for a change, I find myself less 'critical' than the previous reviewer from Norway. Every flaw that reviewer points out is essentially correct, but I find my own ears more delighted, more excited than his criticisms suggest. The soloists are members of the choir, a practice that certainly wouldn't have shocked any of the three composers. The instrumental ensemble, however, is of the highest competence; Bach would have considered himself especially fortunate to have them. And the sound recording is so clean and open that even the most complex antiphonal choral section of Lotti's Mass sound acceptably close to human voices in a good acoustic space. Kudos to the engineers for another change!
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