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Bach : Complete Sacred Cantatas [Box set]

Nikolaus Harnoncourt Audio CD
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  • Audio CD (12 Nov 2007)
  • Number of Discs: 60
  • Format: Box set
  • Label: Warner Classics
  • ASIN: B000RZOR2U
  • Average Customer Review: 4.0 out of 5 stars  See all reviews (4 customer reviews)
  • Amazon Bestsellers Rank: 29,648 in Music (See Top 100 in Music)

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13 of 14 people found the following review helpful
the sacred BACH 17 Dec 2010
By Simon
Format:Audio CD
What can one say about the whole recording of the sacred cantatas besides to stand in awe and reverence?
Until i bought this set a year ago, i was an ardent admirer of the cantatas performances by Richter, Werner, Lehman, Ramin, et al.
I got tired from those performances, though i still cherish them in my heart, especially the great soloists Krebs, Fisher-Diskau, Hotter, Topper, etc.
But with these recordings by Leonhardt and Harnoncourt i feel as though i'm in Leipzig around, let's say 1729, listening to a new cantata by the local cantor, performed by his raw and not far from amteurish pupils and burgers.
A facinating and thrilling experience!
Yes, i admit, i don't like those sugar-sweet and so professional and smooth performances that are so common nowadays.
Besides, i much prefer boys as the high voices rather than women. So much the more as it was the custom in Bach's days.

Few times in the past i heard some pieces from these recordings in LP'S, and i remember them as an excellent recordings (as usuall with those Telefunken LP'S).
Well, the remastering too is very good (though not so transparent as the LP'S).
The linear notes are scanty and without the words of the cantatas - a grave and serious fault you can find almost in every remastering by Warner.
Nevertheles, the price for all these CD'S is ridiculous.

A MUST!
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Magisterial 10 Mar 2012
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An absolute must have for friends of historic performance practice. I discovered the sparkling clarity in better known cantatas and had numerous revelations in less well known ones. Similarly high quality of vocal and instruments. This is one of my island CDs.
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15 of 21 people found the following review helpful
By Teemacs TOP 1000 REVIEWER
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To the best of my knowledge, this Telefunken "Das Alte Werke" set was the first ever integral recording of the Bach cantatas. It is not the first complete recording, that was Rilling, but Rilling never set out with the intention to record them all, it sort of developed that way. As a result, the gap between the first and last Rilling recordings is more than 20 years, and the later recordings, although performed on modern instruments and with women's voices, were informed by the growing knowledge of period practice. The "Das Alte Werke" set was the first set to seek a unified approach, and in addition to try to recapture the sort of sound that would have been more like the sound Bach would have heard, using copies of the instruments that he would have known.

I have not heard all of these cantatas, but I know many of them from the initial LP releases I have in my collection, in their nice brown boxes (2 LPs per box) with miniature scores and detailed booklets. I enjoyed them, but, in my opinion, they have been surpassed. Nicky and Gus were trailblazers in the business of "authentic" performance (insofar as actual authentic performance is possible), and they of course suffer from the fact that people who follow reap the benefit of lessons learned and take things one step further. The use of these instruments was in its infancy and the orchestral sound is often thin and scrawny, the intonation of the valveless natural horns and trumpets often insecure. And occasionally I was caused to wonder whether some of these recordings had been made in Nicky's garden shed. In the now nearly 40 years that has followed, new generations of players have made these instruments their own. The Gardiners, Suzukis, Herreweghes and Koopmans have advanced the art and their orchestras sound much better than the orchestras in these works.

In the interests of "authenticity", the "Das Alte Werke" recordings eschewed women singers, opting to go with boy sopranos and counter-tenors. Bach would naturally have used all-male singers. However, boys' voices broke much later in Bach's time, so Nicky and Gus are actually trying to reproduce a sound that no longer exists, indeed that no longer CAN exist. Having said that, the quality of the singing is generally very good, and some of the boy soloists (from various boy's choirs, including the Vienna Boys' Choir and the King's College Cambridge choir) are really quite amazing (e.g., the opening solo of BWV28). The contributions of the grown-up soloists are also often outstanding (Max von Edmond and Paul Esswood come particularly to mind).

Having said all that, and acknowledging that this is a monumental achievement of the recording industry, I know enough about this set not to want to buy it, because to me the Gardiner/Suzuki sets sound so much better. However, I know people who absolutely adore this set, and who like the feeling of "insecurity", of operating slightly on the edge, of the whole thing, because this is what Bach must have been used to, considering he often had only a week to write, rehearse and perform a new cantata. These folk are the natural customers for this set. For anyone else, before splashing out this much money, I'd advise getting a single set of the cantatas (I believe the two-LP sets were released in CD form) and listen to one, to see whether you like the approach and the sound - and of course comparing with the likes of Gardiner and Suzuki, not to mention the older recordings of Richter, Werner and Rilling. Here's a good place to get a sample of "the big two", BWV140 and 147:

http://www.amazon.co.uk/Bach-JS-Sacred-Cantatas-BWV/dp/B0043IZ4VA/ref=sr_1_cc_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1292763940&sr=1-1-catcorr

One of the enormous (and to me enormously irritating) conceits of this set when it first appeared was the statement, more or less in so many words, that this was the only way to play Bach, and that any other approach was wrong. Hopefully, this has been erased from the record by now. This is music for eternity and should be played to the full extent of its artistic and aesthetic possibilities, not strapped in a stylistic straitjacket, using women's voices and modern instruments, if need be. I still turn to the old Erato Werner recording of BWV140 and the glory of the three trumpeting Läubin brothers blowing up a storm in Rilling's BWV129. Bach performance is not set in stone, nor should it be.
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