- Audio CD (6 Nov 2000)
- Number of Discs: 3
- Format: Box set
- Label: Virgin
- ASIN: B00005064V
- Other Editions: MP3 Download
- Average Customer Review: 3.7 out of 5 stars See all reviews (27 customer reviews)
- Amazon Bestsellers Rank: 76,110 in Music (See Top 100 in Music)
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A little something for the Genesis fan who must have everything and preferably in a box--even if he or she owns most of it already: Volume 2 of the Archive series picks up the tale at the tricky point of Peter Gabriel's departure and follows, in annoyingly non-chronological fashion over the course of three CDs, the band's amazingly survivalist transformation from parochially English prog-rock eccentrics with heads full of crazed kindergarten-story-time fantasy, to purveyors of sleek but complex and not entirely quirk-free adult-rock adored by millions globally. All the more amazing, really, when you consider how in 1976 Genesis were flapping around with enforced instrument swaps (drummer Phil Collins to vocals, bassist Mike Rutherford to guitar, guitarist Steve Hackett to the door marked "Exit" and a solo career) much to the puzzlement of a bemused press, who clearly didn't fancy the band's chances of making it past either Christmas. How wrong they were. According to keyboard-player Tony Banks, Archive Vol. 2 mops up pretty much all of the out-takes and leftovers from the albums covered by this period (there are four off-cuts from the Abacab album alone, including errant hit single "Paperlate", but these have all been released commercially before) while the second CD is composed of live recordings left off Seconds Out, Three Sides Live, etc. (watch out for "Entangled", recorded on the A Trick Of The Tale tour in 1976 and featuring the interim post-Gabriel line-up with Yes/King Crimson man Bill Bruford on drums). Essentially, live cuts not withstanding, Archive Vol. 2 boils down to one previously unreleased track, a revealing work-in-progress version of "Mama" and a perfect creative example of just how flexibly limbed and effortlessly commercial Genesis had become. Therefore, committed long-term fans will see this set as representing a fairly meagre return on their investment. Nonetheless, for the inquisitive layman who wishes to dig deeper than the obligatory Greatest Hits collection and can live without hearing "Match Of The Day", Archive Vol. 2 sets about sweeping the odds and ends from every nook and cranny of Genesis' most successful period. --Kevin Maidment
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10 of 10 people found the following review helpful:
2.0 out of 5 stars
12 inches are many too many...,
By A Customer
This review is from: Archive Vol.2 1976-1992 (Audio CD)
I agree wholeheartedly with the Rugby Fans review from 24th October. What a wasted opportunity this set is and how brilliant it could have been. Anyone new to the band will find it an excellent alternative to trawling up and down the country to record fairs to try and track down most of the already released material on here. If you've been a lifelong fan and collected their output over the years then not a lot here will be new. To summarise; already released on CD.... On the shoreline, Hearts on fire, You might recall, Paperlate, Evidence of Autumn, Do the neurotic, Inside and out, Feeding the fire, I can't dance (12"), Dreaming while you sleep (live), The Brazilian (live), Your own special way (live), Land of confusion (12"), Tonight, tonight, tonight (12"), Open door, Pigeons Already released on vinyl.... I'd rather be you, Naminanu, Submarine, Invisible touch (12"), The Lady lies (live), Day the light went out, Vancouver, It's yourself Never released commercially (vinyl or cd).... Illegal alien (live), It's gonna get better (live), Deep in the Motherlode (live), Ripples (live), Burning Rope (live), Entangled (live), Dukes Travels (live), No reply at all (live), Man on the corner (live), Mama (work in progress) Should have been included.... Match of the Day, Me and Virgil, Inside and Out (live), Eleventh Earl of Mar (live), All in a Mouses Night (live), White Mountain (live) circa 1975, Keep it Dark (live) + unreleased demos Personally I would have ditched all the tedious 12" mixes in favour of the above section. I know these sets aim to capture broad appeal but surely the sales are mainly attributed to fans wanting to add gaps into their collections and 12" mixes of a band like Genesis are not usually sought after nor highly regarded. The demos mentioned in the earlier review would have been however. A missed opportunity I fear and not the treat for fans that the 1998 retrospective set was.
4 of 4 people found the following review helpful:
5.0 out of 5 stars
Genesis present a Thank You,
By Richard Whitcher (Claverton Down, Bath United Kingdom) - See all my reviews
This review is from: Archive Vol.2 1976-1992 (Audio CD)
OK, I admit, I'm a Genesis fan. I can't say I've trawled though records fairs trying to find their records, but I've probably heard most of their music, in fact I own all their albums. Genesis Archive II 1976-1992 is in the same vane as Archive I. Okay so it's not full of old band demo tapes but it's got some cracking tunes on it. The live set is excellent; really capturing the atmosphere at the time the songs was recorded. Illegal Alien starts the set off on CD2 and really captures the humour of Genesis' later years. The B-sides are b-sides, but some of these and other tracks are so close to fulfilling the album criteria and ambience, it's seems a shame that weren't included originally, more to the benefit of us now! So to the 12-inchs. Well the 80's were full of them, and of the mixes that are in the album a good bunch has been included. Land of Confusion with its ballsy thud and I Can't Dance with its excellent Tony Banks/Mike Rutherford riff. Some fans might be upset; others might be over the moon. Some love Phil, other prefer Peter. So I maybe half a die-hard fan but this is still in my collection, right next to Archive I. It's just great to listen to. Even the 10-minute work in progress version of Mama has something about it that makes you want to listen to how the group made things from nothing. Experience the different sides of Genesis, in this box set that's full of energy and atmosphere. The sound that is so Genesis, in fact a cleaner, crispy Genesis sound, and captures their full strength. Think of it as an addition to every album recorded in the period.
3 of 3 people found the following review helpful:
2.0 out of 5 stars
Nothing new to tempt long term fans - a big disapointment,
By A Customer
This review is from: Archive Vol.2 1976-1992 (Audio CD)
While I applaud Virgin Records' continuing loyalty to the Genesis back catalogue and the high quality of the tracks on the first Archive Box Set, I am a little dissapointed at the content of the latest trawl throught the archives. The ardent and long time fan, who this set is aimed at will probably have (in one form or another) all of the tracks on offer here. Firstly disc one: A selection of B-sides, many supposedly on CD for the first time. But at least 4 of the offerings appeared on CD singles. And why the ommission of "Me And Virgil" from the Paperlate EP?? Naminanu was the B-side to 2 singles (Keep It Dark and No Reply At All) so is hardly a rare track. Inside and Out (and the rest of "Spot the Pigeon" (though Match of the Day is omitted here, why?)was given a CD release a few years back by Virgin) On disc 2 the so called "Rare" live tracks are from some of the most popular bootlegs that most Genesis fans will already own. The LA Forum, Wembley and Theatre Royal / Lyceum shows were all FM broadcasts at the time and are now all available on CD's if you know where to look. I for one would have prefered some "real" rarities in CD quality like, for instance, the 1975 Trident Studio demo's(from where "It's Yourself" comes!), the 1978 Dallas rehearsals, the Invisible Touch "Work in progress" demo's (as recorded for the BBC), "Silver Song","All in a mouses night" from the 1977 tour, etc.. Disc three boasts that Man On the Corner was not on 3 sides live, but it did appear on the video of the same name and was repeated again on the History of Genesis video Set. I hope that the live version of "No Reply At All" is the one featuring the EWF horns - if so, why not add (from the same show - Forest Hills, New York - 1982) Paperlate? The live version of "Your Own Special Way" was on the CD single of Hold On My Heart (GENDG 8) and is billed as featuring the "Invisible String Section" - some rarity! And finally, the live version of "Dreaming While You Sleep" was originally found tucked away on the CD single "Tell Me Why" (GENDX 11). So, to say the least, i'm disapointed. I won't be bothered either way if i have it or not. What i'd like to know though, is do the Band have any plans to give the fans what they really want? Other groups from the same era (Deep Purple, Fairport Convention,Jethro Tull etc.) have benefited from opening up the archives and have released high quality CD's featuring rare and "UNRELEASED" live and studio material. A prime example is this years "California Sessions" by Deep Purple - the original studio tapes from the "Come Taste the Band" rehearsals. I'm sure any Genesis material in a similar vein would prove popular (especially with the option for it to be sold via the internet)
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