- Mass Market Paperback: 342 pages
- Publisher: Ballantine Books Inc. (April 1998)
- Language English
- ISBN-10: 034541411X
- ISBN-13: 978-0345414113
- Product Dimensions: 17.3 x 10.2 x 2.5 cm
- Average Customer Review: 5.0 out of 5 stars See all reviews (2 customer reviews)
- Amazon Bestsellers Rank: 4,953,702 in Books (See Top 100 in Books)
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In this riveting, action-packed alternate history, the Apaches forge their own bold nation and enter the world of racketeering and politics--all the while maintaining their traditional ways--as a new neighbor to a United States that will never be the same again . . .
In 1884 only one thing stood in the way of United States expansion: the Apaches. The U.S. Army believed it could easily defeat this ragtag band of savages who viewed one another more as rivals than allies. But one of those "savages" was a military genius: Juh, "He Who Sees Ahead." It was Juh's vision that persuaded the various tribal leaders to set aside their differences and work together, thus turning the disconnected bands of warring Apaches into the most cohesive fighting force the West had ever seen--and crushing the invading army.
Thus was born Apacheria--the Apache Nation--and a world where Juh and his son, Little Spring, matched wits and weapons with a cast ranging from Teddy Roosevelt and Carrie Nation to Al Capone and J. Edgar Hoover. A world where it was best to stand with the Apaches, and never against them . . .
In 1884 only one thing stood in the way of United States expansion: the Apaches. The U.S. Army believed it could easily defeat this ragtag band of savages who viewed one another more as rivals than allies. But one of those "savages" was a military genius: Juh, "He Who Sees Ahead." It was Juh's vision that persuaded the various tribal leaders to set aside their differences and work together, thus turning the disconnected bands of warring Apaches into the most cohesive fighting force the West had ever seen--and crushing the invading army.
Thus was born Apacheria--the Apache Nation--and a world where Juh and his son, Little Spring, matched wits and weapons with a cast ranging from Teddy Roosevelt and Carrie Nation to Al Capone and J. Edgar Hoover. A world where it was best to stand with the Apaches, and never against them . . .
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The book has a couple of ery rough scenes
To be truthful to the historical record of Apache life, and the extremely rough way people treated each other in those days not so long ago (white and Indian), I put a couple of very rough scenes in this book. A few women, and in particular, a few mothers, find these scenes hard to take. I wish I had a way of flagging them so they could be skipped by the more delicate among us.One is in the last part of the opening scene (a rape), and one occurs when Juh and his wife are surrounded on a mountain. Jake Page
To be truthful to the historical record of Apache life, and the extremely rough way people treated each other in those days not so long ago (white and Indian), I put a couple of very rough scenes in this book. A few women, and in particular, a few mothers, find these scenes hard to take. I wish I had a way of flagging them so they could be skipped by the more delicate among us.One is in the last part of the opening scene (a rape), and one occurs when Juh and his wife are surrounded on a mountain. Jake Page
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1 of 1 people found the following review helpful
Format:Mass Market Paperback
Jake Page's second Apache alternate history novel, Apacheria, is set in a world where the Apaches, under the leadership of Juh, formed an independent nation in the America Southwest. Although billed as a novel, Apacheria is structured as three interrelated stories set over a span of several decades. The novel's first section, set in the 1880s describes the formation of Apacheria and the birth of Juh's son, Little Spring. Subsequent sections of the novel follow Juh's family through to America's prohibition.
Page has selected a difficult branch point for his alternate history. The Apaches were in such a weak position, it is hard to see a realistic way to give them their own nation. Page is not able to do it, either. Although he begins well by making the Apaches more unified than they were in our world, he also shows the United States backing down from annihilating the Apaches a little too easily.
Furthermore, many of the situations Page describes are not always clear. This is not simply a matter of Page describing complex scenarios, but rather this seeming inability to clearly communicate the action to the reader.
Following the Apache succession, Page fails to examine the historical changes which would result from the loss of land and sovereignty to the Indians. Grover Cleveland still manages to win a second term of office, after being out of office for four years, despite his close ties to Geronimo, the Apacherian ambassador to Washington. Carrie Nation's anti-alcohol crusade still brings about prohibition and Teddy Roosevelt still winds up in the White House after leading a charge up San Juan Hill.
What Page does focus on is the question of what it means to be an Apache and, by extension, any other ethnic group. The definition of being Apache ranges from Victorio's very limiting definition to Naiche's, Cochise's son who takes up with a Causcasian Woman.
Page's portrayal of 1920s era Chicago is also interesting, although its depiction is so close to the real O'Banion-Torrio feud that this part of the book nearly doesn't qualify as alternate history.
While Apacheria examines dome important issues, the reader is left feeling that the same issues could have been explored as well, if not better, without imposing the alternate history angle on the story. Because the alternate history aspect of the book is not written as logically as it could have been, the rest of the novel tends to suffer.
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Jake, call me if you need a lift. Some of the review were not nice. Hay, gang, this is not Gone With the Wind. Chill Out. This little Tongue in Cheek is great. Jake was on a trail drive up the Goodnight when this idea came to him. If the truth were known a lot of folks would like to see Jake's story selling in the Non-Fiction section of Amazon. I loved the section on Carrie Nation and Al Capone. Only an Apache could have handled those two so well. It is a very good book, believable, good R&D, a DelRay, a nice ending. The kind of book you like to take home to Pop. More SciFi, Jake, please. Smitty really gave it six stars but Amazon would only print five of them. Here's that missing one, Jake, * - Smitty
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2 of 2 people found the following review helpful
Good story, should have been edited better
28 Sep 2001
Format:Mass Market Paperback
Apacheria by Jake Page is an interesting tale that should have been edited closer.
I found myself re-reading paragraphs and sections of the book to make sure that I was following closely. ..., there was a part where Tom Bignon was doing something and by the end of that part of the story, Little Spring was the center of action. No transition at all...almost like the author forgot who he was writing about there.
JEERS TO DEL REY!!! the first page of the book, the one where it describes a confrontation between the Apaches and Al Capone...that doesn't happen in the book until the last three pages!!! What the heck was that about?!? It's like seeing a movie preview that shows the final scene. The ending was totally ruined for me. That first page could have been from anywhere in the first part and still grab the eye.
And, speaking of the ending of the book, will there be another one with Juh and the Apaches? It would be interesting to see how they would have handled WWII and the years to follow.
Good story, could have been better.
4 of 5 people found the following review helpful
Interesting, but not believable.
23 April 1998
Format:Mass Market Paperback
Jake Page's second Apache alternate history novel, Apacheria, is set in a world where the Apaches, under the leadership of Juh, formed an independent nation in the America Southwest. Although billed as a novel, Apacheria is structured as three interrelated stories set over a span of several decades. The novel's first section, set in the 1880s describes the formation of Apacheria and the birth of Juh's son, Little Spring. Subsequent sections of the novel follow Juh's family through to America's prohibition.
Page has selected a difficult branch point for his alternate history. The Apaches were in such a weak position, it is hard to see a realistic way to give them their own nation. Page is not able to do it, either. Although he begins well by making the Apaches more unified than they were in our world, he also shows the United States backing down from annihilating the Apaches a little too easily.
Furthermore, many of the situations Page describes are not always clear. This is not simply a matter of Page describing complex scenarios, but rather this seeming inability to clearly communicate the action to the reader.
Following the Apache succession, Page fails to examine the historical changes which would result from the loss of land and sovereignty to the Indians. Grover Cleveland still manages to win a second term of office, after being out of office for four years, despite his close ties to Geronimo, the Apacherian ambassador to Washington. Carrie Nation's anti-alcohol crusade still brings about prohibition and Teddy Roosevelt still winds up in the White House after leading a charge up San Juan Hill.
What Page does focus on is the question of what it means to be an Apache and, by extension, any other ethnic group. The definition of being Apache ranges from Victorio's very limiting definition to Naiche's, Cochise's son who takes up with a Causcasian Woman.
Page's portrayal of 1920s era Chicago is also interesting, although its depiction is so close to the real O'Banion-Torrio feud that this part of the book nearly doesn't qualify as alternate history.
While Apacheria examines dome important issues, the reader is left feeling that the same issues could have been explored as well, if not better, without imposing the alternate history angle on the story. Because the alternate history aspect of the book is not written as logically as it could have been, the rest of the novel tends to suffer.
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26 May 2012
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In reading alternate history, one must approach it about the same as any other fiction: the author basically makes a premise and builds a story upon it. Part of the premise is that he will not change people who are actual historical characters -- and I appreciated Page's chart showing who was fictional and who was not.
This was a fun story in which the Apaches were more tolerant of variety in their midst than were most people of that time (or now). It is a nice glance at one way in which all varieties can be accommodated and respected within a society without squelching any -- not even warmongering warriors or prostitutes. (This idea seems to be missing in many Americans' current vision of America -- so perhaps we could do with a few more stories on that theme to get people thinking.)
I enjoyed the characters Page created. The sense of humor of the two young men who go back East to an Ivy league college was a bit daring for kids in that situation. The woman who owns the bar is a rollicking character of good sense. The leaders who rule by consensus and then absolute obedience by all leaders to the agreed-upon plan are refreshing . . . as is the society's solution for those leaders who go back on their word (about the ONLY variety of person NOT tolerated). This is not to say we should emulate all parts of Page's vision -- just that it could stimulate thinking that could help us today in our troubled world and be fun to read at the same time.
This was a fun story in which the Apaches were more tolerant of variety in their midst than were most people of that time (or now). It is a nice glance at one way in which all varieties can be accommodated and respected within a society without squelching any -- not even warmongering warriors or prostitutes. (This idea seems to be missing in many Americans' current vision of America -- so perhaps we could do with a few more stories on that theme to get people thinking.)
I enjoyed the characters Page created. The sense of humor of the two young men who go back East to an Ivy league college was a bit daring for kids in that situation. The woman who owns the bar is a rollicking character of good sense. The leaders who rule by consensus and then absolute obedience by all leaders to the agreed-upon plan are refreshing . . . as is the society's solution for those leaders who go back on their word (about the ONLY variety of person NOT tolerated). This is not to say we should emulate all parts of Page's vision -- just that it could stimulate thinking that could help us today in our troubled world and be fun to read at the same time.
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