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8 Diagrams: +DVD

Wu-Tang Clan Audio CD
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Emerging in 1993, when Dr. Dre's G-funk had overtaken the hip-hop world, the Staten Island, NY-based Wu-Tang Clan proved to be the most revolutionary rap group of the mid-'90s -- and only partially because of their music. Turning the standard concept of a hip-hop crew inside out, the Wu-Tang Clan were assembled as a loose congregation of nine ... Read more in Amazon's Wu-Tang Clan Store

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  • Audio CD (10 Dec 2007)
  • Number of Discs: 2
  • Label: Bodog Music
  • ASIN: B000V3OEXK
  • Other Editions: Audio CD  |  Vinyl
  • Average Customer Review: 4.1 out of 5 stars  See all reviews (24 customer reviews)
  • Amazon Bestsellers Rank: 29,240 in Music (See Top 100 in Music)

1. Campfire
2. Take It Back
3. Get Them Out Ya Way Pa
4. Face The Problems
5. The Heart Gently Weeps
6. Wolves
7. Gun Will Go
8. Sunlight
9. Stick Me For My Riches
10. Windmill
11. Starter
12. Weak Spot
13. Life Changes
14. Tar Pit feat George Clinton
15. 16th Chamber (ODB Special

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4 of 4 people found the following review helpful
By Neil
Format:Audio CD
I'm two and a half listens into the new Wu-Tang album, and I have to say: Ghostface and Raekwon; for all your ego-ma-tizing, condemnation of the RZA's "dictatorship" of the Wu during this recording, and criticism of the final product - you're wrong. This record is a lot better than Ghostface's recent Big Doe Rehab, and better than any of us had any right to expect the new Wu release to be. In fact, in their outspoken reservations all Raekwon and Ghost have managed to do is shift the adulation squarely onto the RZA's shoulders. The RZA has delivered.

Sure, it's no Enter the Wu-Tang, but for me no hip-hop record has been able to rival that one since it's release - despite some worthy attempts like Ghostface's Supreme Clientele and Iron Man (both largely handled by the RZA), RZA's own Bobby Digital, and the Gravediggaz' Niggamortis (featuring the RZA). I think we really need to put Enter the Wu-Tang aside and judge hip-hop records on their own merits.

I'm not sure where 8 Diagrams stands in the Wu pecking order just yet, but I'm thinking definitely ahead of The W, and maybe ahead of Forever. Only time will tell on that score, since Forever has certainly proved to be a record that has proved it's worth over time. It had to be divorced from post Enter the Wu-Tang expectation before the quality it actually possessed could be seen.

All the members of the clan are on top form on this one - yes, Raekwon and Ghostface included. Method Man's flow is still smooth, but lacks a bit of the wit you might have come to associate with him. The real star has to be the RZA though. He has dug out some truly amazing loops and beats. "Rushing Elephants" particularly goes down as my favourite loop for at least 5 years. It's so good that I haven't even listened to the words on that one yet; I just want to hear that loop again and again.

Another highlight is "The Heart Gently Weeps", which I didn't actually like when I heard it before the release of the album. Ghost's contribution is outstanding however, the live drum kit is a nice touch, and the production is beautifully clear.

Then you have the dark and humorous "Wolves" which features a brilliant guest spot from George Clinton, singing a wonderfully off kilter lyric about the wolf "that made a widower out of grandpa".

There are parts in many of the songs that I'm not keen on, like the chorus in "Get Them Out Ya Way Pa" or "Gun Will Go", but on the whole even these tracks contain enough outstanding elements to push doubts into the background. I read an earlier review that disparaged George Clinton's appearance on the bonus track "Tar Pit". For one thing, it's not really part of the album, so I think criticism should be held back. For another, I find it amusing that this is seen as so offensive on a Wu-Tang record. If it had been a Beastie Boys record people would be praising it to the skies, saying what an audacious move it was.

In all it's a brilliantly varied, even revolutionary hip-hop album - the best I've heard in a long time, and I think one that will garner more attention as time passes. My only real reservation is that it starts a little slowly - it's three or four tracks before it really gets bangin', and at over 70 minutes it's a bit too long - yet another hip-hop example of too many tracks spoiling the album (if only a little). Personally I would have left off the first three tracks, but that's just me. I'm sure some peope will be digging those too.
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10 of 11 people found the following review helpful
5.0 out of 5 stars This is the future of hip-hops soundscape 12 Dec 2007
Format:Audio CD
A word of warning this is a album what you have to let grow on you as the sound is that fresh. I have listened to this album a total of 10 times now. I admit my first listen I thought it was a mess. I was left with the same belief Wu have definately fallen off. I thought I have had since 'Iron Flag'.
But I refused to let this thought consume me & really didnt want it to be true so I gave it a chance. I put it back on & listened again & again & again. Each time it got gradualy better & the lyrics began to come together over the beats much better.
On my 6th listen it all clicked. It seemed to make sense, the beats, the rhymes, the flow - all top notch & I began loving it. I now realise the problem was the sound is so fresh it took me a while to get used to it. But once I did - bloody hell its amazing. The best thing ive heard in a long time. I can see this disc burning in my CD player its going to be getting that much rotation.

Sure its not the '36 chamber' sound we all fell in love with them for. But these guys have grown. They arent teenagers/young adults anymore. It would sound stupid of them to be rapping in that style now. We all ask our favourite MC's 'to keep it real' & as such cant expect them to go rapping about hanging out on street corners being the tough, martial arts obsessed kids. That sound is not them anymore, this is (although we do have a return of the martial art flick samples, thankfully) . Deal with it.
Same with the beats - I doubt we will never get the rawness of the original Wu sound ever again due mainly to technology making all sounds to clean & clear in this day & age.
The beats on here are as much a definition of today's grown Wu as the rough, hard beats were to yesterdays Wu.
This is better than every album thats been released in the last 8 years at least. It just takes a few listens to understand that
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2 of 2 people found the following review helpful
4.0 out of 5 stars 4 star only because Forvever is better 3 Jan 2008
Format:Audio CD
A decade ago the Wu dropped their second album. It was a much maligned effort in certain quarters but has garnered much praise since. Ten years later it would appear that the RZA has repeated the trick. Coming under fire from the clan itself this offering is indeed a more sedate affair but then the first album since the death of that key clan ventricle ODB was always going to impact this piece in some way. I remember seeing the Wu at Hammersmith even before ODB's death, he was one of two key absentees that night along with Meth and the mere mention of his name sparked the biggest cheer of the night. This album through its beats, its guitars, and its subtlety like Forever will be only be truly appreciated in two or three years time when all those whack mothergoose/Dr Seuss mcs like 50 cent try to emulate it. The RZA's only fault as clearly demonstrated here is that he is way ahead of his time.
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4.0 out of 5 stars strong offering
I have only just bought this - a few years after its original release. I needed to hear some more more wu-tang and it's been a long time. Read more
Published on 25 Jun 2010 by Mr. D. Burrell
5.0 out of 5 stars hip hop legends,enter the hall of fame for the game.
this album is classic wu tang pure liquid gold.a stunning master piece of an album.36 chambers is oneof the best hip hop albums of all time. Read more
Published on 14 May 2010 by Mr. G,Q SMOOTH
4.0 out of 5 stars Underated....
Don't know why so many people are down on this album because it's pretty damn good. Love the Curtis Mayfield bit at the start of the album and the use of classic soul for the track... Read more
Published on 19 Nov 2008 by M. Bazell
5.0 out of 5 stars Absoloutely Superb - It simply is.
This album is simply stunning, for sure. Three listens in I got it, at first you don't - you feel like you've missed the punchline, not been let in on the secret. Read more
Published on 7 July 2008 by Mr. T. Brereton
5.0 out of 5 stars different wu but classic wu
This album was so anticipated and reviews have been split. But personally i love the album take it back is an early 90's sounding hip hop track where wu sound hungry and focused. Read more
Published on 9 Mar 2008 by Ricky Carroll
5.0 out of 5 stars NEW WU
First i wastnt going to get this album because of all the bad reviews but being a big wu fan i did and i dont regreat it,i really like the album only one song that im not to keen... Read more
Published on 19 Feb 2008 by CRAZE
2.0 out of 5 stars I tried I really did...
But after 3 weeks of listening to this album I cant find anything I like about it.

I think its the worst ever Wu album, and that includes the solo efforts. Read more
Published on 30 Jan 2008 by Deniz Huseyin
5.0 out of 5 stars A deeper Wu
Brave, eclectic and mature. The Wu have grown and spread their wings. They have encompassed other artists in their pantheon with some great collaborations. Read more
Published on 18 Jan 2008 by R. S. Bryan
2.0 out of 5 stars Wot no Wu Bangers?
I took delivery of my copy of the new Wu album a couple of days ago and it's so far only enjoyed a couple of rotations on the car stereo. Read more
Published on 10 Jan 2008 by G. J. Shanks
3.0 out of 5 stars Better after several listens!
Sounds too much like the Kill Bill soundtrack. It's just not hardcore enough. Too much singing, too many flat and dainty beats, and not enough darkness. Read more
Published on 6 Jan 2008 by HWNDarkside
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